Talk:Laurie David

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[edit] Air Travel Controversy

I am confused with this talk page, and this article in general as it has no section of "biography" for her. I think this picture: http://wholelifetimes.com/2006/04/img/lauriedavid0604.jpg should be put up of Laurie David but I dont know how to do it:(

The issue not a NPOV problem; as I wrote it, both sides are covered. The issue is notable -- it has been addressed in Atlantic Monthly, The New York Times, Nightline (where was addressed in an interview), and elsewhere. Widespread criticism in mainstrean media that has been addressed by the subject is certainly relevant for inclusion. Wikipedia is not a platform for self-promotion or fluff pieces. I am re-adding the section with additional background and references. Dbchip 14:51, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Not quite. Your edit hardly covers "both sides." I will rewrite it to make it less POV. Laurie David being questioned about the same baseless charge (which she has refuted) is hardly "widespread criticism." Wikipedia is not a platform for political hit pieces. At least three editors have removed Goldberg's comments and the fake "airline controversy" nonsense. These editors are in consensus, and that is why such nonsense was (and will continue to be) deleted. Eleemosynary 04:49, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
    • (Removed POV (including Times coverage that does not directly address David), and Bernie Goldberg self-promotion) DId you read the NYT article? She is directly named in paragraph three. Also, how is linking the book "self-promotion?" I can assure you that I'm not Bernie Goldberg. Dbchip 05:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I read the article. She is mentioned in it, but the language you quoted does not directly address her. Your edit made it seem like the Times writer used those statistics to directly criticize Laurie David. In the context of the article, he did nothing of the sort. Your previous edit could be contstrued as extremely disingenuous. I didn't assume you were Bernie Goldberg, but his book is self-promotion. Goldberg using David as a target in his book is admittedly sleazy, but it's not encyclopedic. If you don't want the article to be a puff piece, try not to make it a hit piece. Eleemosynary 05:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I've added sections, including one for the paragraph about criticism of her use of a private jet. Since she gets the last word in it, it is still probably pro-David POV, but at least readers can judge for themselves by the fact that controversy exists. 4.243.206.84 18:05, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to User:Eleemosynary

Hi, User:Eleemosynary. Regarding your reverts to Laurie David, I disagree that consensus has been reached since every revert by one editor clearly is a disagreement with another and there has been no discussion here. I can't speak for past edits, but my most current contribution presented both sides to offer a neutral point of view and cite very credible sources in mainstream media. The controversy section only contains documented facts from credible sources, including the subject of the article. Please discuss any further changes in Talk:Laurie David. Dbchip 04:39, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

See above. Eleemosynary 04:49, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to User:Eleemosynary

Hi User:Eleemosynary. You don't at all find it noteworthy that a top champion against global warming produces nearly five times the annual CO2 output of an average US citizen just for holiday travel? BrushlessInSeattle 19:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Karl Rove Verbal Beatdown

Witnesses say Laurie David approached Karl Rove's table, was verbally abusive and asked to leave. It seemed a partisan issue really unrelated to the rest of her work so I removed it. It reflects poorly on Laurie David and almost makes it look like she went out of her way to go over to Karl Rove's table and harass him. [[1]]

Which is probably the case. However, I'm not sure how it could be incorporated into a Wikipedia article without making the article un-encyclopedic. 4.243.206.84 18:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)