Talk:Lars Ulrich
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[edit] Beards
I made the missing topic about his obsession for beards.86.80.121.33 09:52, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Estranged, not divorced
Lars' wife Skylar is estranged not divorced. See http://www.encycmet.com/news/2005-12-03.shtml, where Lars states this in an interview.
[edit] Berkeley connection?
The entry for Berkeley, CA mentioned Lars as (at one time or now) residing in this city, but I don't see a mention of it here. Is there a connection? --Zippy 00:58, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
To Zippy, I believe Lars has lived in many Californian locations, although I cannot find any specific references to Berkeley. In 2002 he is believed to have sold a home in Marin County overlooking the Golden Gate Bridge and in 2004 he sold a house at 11 Place Moulin, Tiburon. I am unsure how manu homes he currently has, but I believe he also has a place in his native city of Copenhagen and last years it was reported he was residing in New York with his actress girlfriend, Connie Nielsen.
[edit] floor toms
Lars' present equipment actually uses 16"x14" & 16"x16" floor toms. He doesn't use any other sizes.
[edit] Drum kit details
Despite the lack of article size constraints, the long historical list of Ulrich's drum kit is definitely non-encyclopediac. See WP:NOT. Ashmoo 06:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Battery
There is no "off-time signature playing" in Battery. Wangoed 15:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cleaned up, but work needed
I cleaned up this article, I wasn't happy with how it was looking. I removed trivial facts from the Metallica section and put them into a Trivia section. This leaves his history with Metallica a bit bare, so some more work is needed here, especcially to fill out the years between Metallica's forming and Napster.
I also moved the very large equipment lists to a new article, I thought it was way too much information for an otherwise quite short article. This new article might bring it to public attention and a deletion may be considered - I don't have a strong opinion either way.
I decided to be bold in making these changes, but needless to say, if anyone disagrees with my decisions they can put their point forward here or make the changes themselves.
Mark (Talk | Email) 22:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nice cleanup, but don't delete the equipment page
I think the cleanup has made the article much better, and it is correct to move the hefty equipment listing to a new page. However, speaking as a drummer, it would be a shame to delete it. This kind of information can be difficult to find and a lot of hard work went into it. Although the general public may not be so interested, musicians and drummers will be. So keep it as a sperate but linked article I say. You can never have too much information. --LordLovatt 08:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Also as a drummer, I totally agree with you. It may be that the article is never nominated for deletion, but if it is, then we can make our case there. I also agree that as Wikipedia has unlimited space unlike a traditional encyclopedia, the information might as well be there, although some people may say that the information is not encyclopedic enough. I've got the new article watched, so we will see. Also, thanks for your recent minor edits to the article, they really smooth things and make some things make more sense. Good work. --Mark (Talk | Contribs | Email) 21:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Drumming techniques
The following's written in the article : "He has since been considerably influential due to (...) his pioneering drum techniques and styles such as the machine-gun double bass in the song 'One' (...And Justice For All)" : Ulrich is quite a creative drummer but I don't think Ulrich is that pioneering in his so-called "machine-gun double bass" since drummers like Gene Hoglan (cf Darkness Descends, 1986, with the same drums pattern) or Dave Lombardo already used extensive fast double bass patterns before "One" (1988). Abkahn 13:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] RE: Drumming techniques
I generally agree with what Abkhan is saying, however Ulrich is arguably the first drummer who exposed these drumming techniques to the masses, not just to the hardcore underground at the time, and for that he has been considerably influential. Think of "Fight Fire with Fire" (1984) for instance, perhaps that would be a better example of Ulrich's pioneering thrash work? I think the inclusion of "One" as an example is because that is what most people know Ulrich for. I would agree that technically Dave Lombardo is the better drummer, however I don't think that warrants inclusion in the article as it is a matter of opinion, and I believe the comparison to Dave Lombardo should be removed. There were probably hundreds of unknown thrash metal drummers who were technically better than both at the time, does that mean we should mention those too?! --LordLovatt 10:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Ulrich wasn't influential. He didn't even make it into Metal Church because his drumming was awefully sub-par. Because you play in an influential band doesn't make you an influential individual musician. Just like Hammett brought zilch innovation to solos, Ulrich did nothing but copy other people's stuff, at most. I'm not saying that he's a "bad guy" because of that, because everyone copies others' stuff, but saying that Ulrich is/was influential sounds more like a joke to me.
- Another thing, you say, the inclusion of "One" as an example is because that is what most people know Ulrich for. That sounds awefully un-encyclopedic and more like, "writing what people want to read". Best regards, 81.242.140.136 18:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's a tricky one because you don't have to be skilful or innovative to be influential. I would say Lars is respected because of his visibility within the genre and undoubtedly his 1980s recording work, which is very different from his live ability. Also, in terms of fairly fast double-bass work, the first most visible example would probably be Phil Taylor's playing on Motörhead's 'Overkill'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mo79 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Typo
Fixed a small typo in the trivia section. "breif"--->"brief."
[edit] Merge Lars Ulrich's equipment into Lars Ulrich?
Someone nominated that Lars Ulrich's equipment should be re-merged into this page. Opinions? --Mark (Talk | Contribs | Email) 18:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. It's too large to go in this otherwise quite short article about Lars Ulrich. Deserves own article. --Mark (Talk | Contribs | Email) 18:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Oppose per Markdr. --AAA! (AAAA) 03:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Keep it as it is I say. Everything is more stable now, there used to be a lot of messing around when they were both merged. --LordLovatt 14:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Live Earth
The band never confirmed their participation in the Live Earth Tour. As a matter of fact, this was debunked by the MetClub website and MetClub employees confirmed this debunking on the MetClub forums. Because of this, I deleted the sentence.
[edit] Introduction
Moved to persue his tennis career, but intead became a drummer. How? Can somebody who knows explain this please.90.205.60.20 19:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
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- What, exactly, is your question asking? If you are looking for instructions on how to play tennis perhaps you should look at Tennis. If you're wondering about Ulrich's budding tennis career it is likely from his father's desire for him to have access to a very high level of tennis skill which, he felt, could not ge found his his homeland where athletic skills are very very low. After moving to North America seeking adequate tennis competition the young Ulrich turned his back on the sport completely in favour of playing drums. Or so it says in the article. 156.34.227.195 22:01, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] COME ON!
Lars Ulrich is not 14 years old, is he?
I don't know his exact age, somebody fix this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali Nazifpour (talk • contribs) 15:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Biography
Large sections of the biography are copied word-for-word from the cited source. http://www.netglimse.com/celebs/pages/james_hetfield/index.shtml Is this a problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.32.16.100 (talk) 22:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] So he is born to a middleclass family?
While his dad is a tennis pro as well as a musician who has shared the stage with jazz legends? I'm confused--66.146.143.238 (talk) 04:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Trivia
In Trivia there are two text about Ulrich in "Don't Download This Song" by Yankovic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.205.156.105 (talk) 14:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
