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When I first started working on Wikipedia several years ago, there was a title "Landmark Baptist Church". I worked with that, but now I think it is time to change this to a more appropriate title. I think the subject is "Landmarkism". There is really no such thing as THE "Landmark Baptist Church", except for specific congregations that are named that. So I have moved the material here and placed a redirect at Landmark Baptist Church. - Rlvaughn 04:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting the timeline errors regarding the ABA. I think we're on the way to an exceptional Wikipedia article here. When more time is available, I plan to beef up the bibliography. revbart 04:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Southern Baptist??? 2 I'm Disputing a Couple of Edits 3 Origin of name 4 Critics?

[edit] Southern Baptist???

I'm curious...how will ABA/BMA/etc. folks feel about Landmarkism being associated uniquely with Southern Baptist history in Wikipedia? 38.96.219.227 18:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Southern Baptist??? I completely agree. I think it is inappropriate to associate this article exclusively with Southern Baptists.revbart 19:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm Disputing a Couple of Edits

I think it is inappropriate to link the discussion of the "Jerusalem Church" to article on the Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem. Landmark Baptists generally would not acknowledge the Orthodox Church or the patriarchs of Jerusalem to be genuine successors to James and the Jerusalem Church.

I also think that it is a poor link to point the word "commandments" from the Cotton Grove Resolutions to the article on the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus commanded more than the Sermon on the Mount, and it is extremely doubtful that Graves had that passage particularly in mind while drafting the Cotton Grove Resolutions.

I am removing both links, but I am open to hearing arguments for them to be reinstated.38.96.219.227 21:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of name

Where did the term "Landmark" come from? Is it to Biblical references? Also, I'm very familiar with a Landmark Missionary Baptist Church near my home that is cooperative and is associated with the BMA. They are the "rebels" of their conference, and they might be able to provide some Texas history regarding Landmarkers. Let me know if you want help - creton4 [at] yahoo.com --Andy. Oct. 26, 2006.

The "Landmark" reference comes from the Bible. Actually, it comes directly from a work by James Madison Pendleton entitled "An Old Landmark Re-Set." Pendleton relied heavily upon Proverbs 22:28: "Remove not the ancient landmark which thy fathers have set." revbart 23:24, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I grew up in a Landmark Baptist Church. I think it would be good to include the Bible creference cited above. Anytime I heard a speaker reference that passage in a sermon it was generally followed by a "Landmark" sermon. I have also seen that verse cited in numerous circumstances in books about Landmarkism. Citing the verse would also clear any questions people have about the origin of the name.

67.72.98.114 (talk)

Done. Please improve! Said: Rursus ☻ 16:22, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Critics?

Aren't there critics against L:ism within the Baptist movement? Outsiders may of course be critical, but inside would be interesting to know. As far as I can guess there is very little of Landmarkism in Sweden, the Baptists there collaborate with almost anyone, but most notably Methodists, who are all Arminian in Sweden, and who belong to the Porvoo communion with the Anglican Churches and the majority of northern European Lutheran Common ("Catholic") Churches. That indicates a very un-Landmarkian attitude... (?) Said: Rursus ☻ 16:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)