Talk:Land Rover Freelander

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[edit] Unit of measurement on dimensions

Just wondering if there is any convention as to what units are most appropriate. Currently we have a mish-mash of imperial and metric and even mm and cm being used inconsistently. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.68.194 (talk) 18:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quality

is there any feedback about the quality of that vehicle? While I'm happy with mine (Model 2000 Diesel 2.0l), I hear a lot of negative news from people who owned one before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rstohr (talk • contribs)

I have a 1999 TDI Freelander. I bought it in 2002. It was the most expensive car I have ever bought (£15k). It is the most unreliable. Every electric window has broken. Bolts left off after Land Rover service. I would not buy one again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.57.40 (talk • contribs)
We have two, a 1998 L-series and a 2002 TD4. The latter is clearly more refined and well worth the £20,000 we paid for it (list price £22,000). We have found both to be very reliable and haven't missed a beat. Land Rover dealer servicing is very expensive but the vehicle is reasonably easy to DIY service. Would we get another one? Only if our current ones wore out! Certainly there have been problems with the Rover K-series petrol - it is way beyond its original design and shoudn't really be used in a 4x4 or a sports car (also brings problems in the MGF and Lotus Elise) and early models sufferd with VCU/IRD transmission problems. However both of these problems are well documented and avoidable if vigilantly maintained. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blippie (talk • contribs)

[edit] External links

Is it just me... or does that Landrover FAQ external link contain no information on the Freelander at all? I can't see any... zorruno 05:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

You're right. I checked the site's index, and there's nothing. Whilst there's a case for Land Rover generic info in terms of sourcing spares, etc., there are probably plenty of more appropriate sites, and since external links are supposed to be carefully chosen and used sparingly, I've nuked this one. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 14:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1.8 problem section removed.

Can anyone explain to me why the following section has been deleted from the Freelander entry:

"The 1.8k Series models, although having a generally good build quality, has suffered greatly from premature blowing of the head gasket, in many cases prior to 30,000 miles. Land Rover has insisted that this is not a design fault and did not attempt a recall. There is documentary evidence here at the protest site www.freelanderheadgasket.co.uk. [1]"

This fault, along with those of the VCU and IRD unit are well documented and as such verifiable.Knobblywobbly 12:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a place to report reliability problems and promote your site. PrinceGloria 12:24, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
It's NOT my site, and I have absolutely nothing to do with it in any way, shape or form. However, I fail to see what is wrong with including details of verifiable reliability issues associated with the Freelander. Knobblywobbly 11:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Promoting ANY site is not allowed by WP policies. Also discussing reliability issues is beyond what Wikipedia articles on cars should contain. PrinceGloria 13:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
That car reliability point you make about Wikipedia is not always true. There are many articles on cars here that also mention the reliability / popularity / reputation of vehicles. Have a look around, and then please think again about what you wrote. Thanks!
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS basically. Given the little time people in this WikiProject have, we cannot bring all articles to perfection and maintain them in that state all at once. PrinceGloria 21:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree, but that's a little different to what you said. The point you seemed to make before was that this is not the place for X, and now you're saying that X would be OK, but everyone's too busy. Respectfully, your edict that discussing relability (ie. mentioning these issues) is "beyond what Wikipedia articles on cars should contain" seemed a little like creating the rules as you go along. In some articles, there is a place for mentioning reliability. That's simply a fact. Thanks!
No. Some articles contain such "stuff" because we have too little time to prune it. Regards, PrinceGloria 03:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Pirnce Gloria: You seem to be arbiter. If you will not allow us to discuss reliability issues please say so and then we can go elsewhere.159.134.162.59 10:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)