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disambiguation page?

"Generally, a spear which is not thrown is called a lance" That is new to me. Can anybody provide evidence that this is the case. To my mind, the term lance is reserved for spears that are primarily used in a charging attack, usually from horse back as in Jousting or carried by a Lancer of necessity, a lance is generally long. A spear used in regular melee combat is just that: a spear whereas a thowing spear is a Javelin. Gaius Cornelius 10:35, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

A lance has to be long as well-a hoplite at Platea didn't have a lance, although he charged, he had a spear Samrsharma 20:08, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Changed the refference to the charge of the light brigade to include the word "ultimately" since the charge itself achieved the capture of the gun emplacement, but the brigade was unable to hold the position (the heavy brigade did not come to its support) and was "ultimately" unsuccessful. Robinivich 12:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Pole Vaulting?

This article needs some discussion and tightening up; the idea that Stirrups wre instrumental in the development and use of the Cavalry Lance, for instance, has long been discredited. References to Fantasy films should similarly be removed, especially ones showing Massed Cavalry charging into a Spear wall.

I have noticed that this article has undergone some alterations, which are, in my opinion, great improvements. Thanks to whoever implemented the changes. However, I think there is still room for substantial improvement. --M.J.Stanham 11:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Formation

I see that some of the old Lance(formation) has been moved over here prior to this former's remouval. The information itself on the formation that was perserved is quite small if somewhat out of the blue and isolated from the other medieval formations. Searching for the formation I foudn the Lances fournies and thought this the evolution of the earlier Lance(formation), therefore I sought to complete the article as Lance Formation not just the later provided Lance formation. I would like to point you to this article and its discussions for the future of the Lance as a formation, either to mix it all under the weapon or to keep it divided as two seperate articles. Dryzen 15:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fixable Stuff

The Kopia, though listed as a lance, is apparently a formation of lancers. Somebody should probably remove it . . . --Anonymous

Same anonymous here again. The link for Sangu goes to the disambiguation page, and apparently there is no main page. Either somebody should write one, or the link should be removed.

And again. Either the page sudis (stake) is wrong, or the sudis isn't a weapon. Could somebody do research to find out which is true?

And either the page taru links to is wrong, or Taru is the name of a god, not a weapon. Again, research is needed.

[edit] Vandalism

There's been vandalism in the lead sentence of the last article of the "History" section. I don't know what goes there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Glasperlenspiel (talk • contribs) 20:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

The sentence about John-curlyburns-etc. and his spears of pumpernickel appears to be nonsense, and I am about to remove it. J S Ayer (talk) 03:07, 5 December 2007 (UTC)