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[edit] Merge from oldest shipwreck

Someone has created another article about the same ship called oldest shipwreck. An inappropriate name since there are articles about older shipwrecks, and even if it were true another shipwreck could be discovered at any time. Viv Hamilton 13:51, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

• Merge Oldest shipwreck into this article. _{El Greco}^(talk) 16:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose can you please tell me the names of these other older shipwrecks please? i have been to kyrenia castle, and have brought the handbook and have the brochures which clearly state it being the oldest shipwreck discovered... Thetruthonly 16:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
• See below - in any case, both articles describe the same wreck, so the two articles should be merged, and Kyrenia ship would be a more appropriate title Viv Hamilton (talk) 08:52, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

• Done; please clean up kthx. EdC (talk) 00:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oldest Greek Shipwreck

I removed a phrase about Kyrenia being the oldest Greek shipwreck, because it is not - many other wrecks predate it, such as the Bon Porté wrecks, the Giglio Wreck, and the Place Jules Verne wrecks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.7.66 (talk) 14:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

But are those shipwrecks Greek? _{El Greco}^(talk) 14:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, they all Greek, and all represent an earlier shipbuilding tradition in the Greek world of lacing the planks together with cordage. During the 6th Century BCE, we start to see the Greeks adopt pegged mortise and tenon construction - but for a while they use half and half. For instance, the Jules Verne 7 wreck (525 BCE) is mostly mortise and tenon construction, but where the strakes are attached to the posts, they are laced. Same with the Ma'agan Mikhael wreck - also Greek. Kyrenia actually represents the first Greek ship where we see 100% pegged mortise and tenon construction - but it was built with a few recycled planks that show lacing holes. They were reused from an earlier ship. _Belryan^(talk) 14:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)