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[edit] Criticism

Lots of people have tried to write about their screening of comments. I dunno about you, but if multiple people see them doing this, they they probably are. Try it yourself. Or are you Dreaded Walrus in Kotaku's back pocket as well? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.246.40.5 (talk • contribs).

Not at all. In fact, I barely ever read it. When I do read it, I see that there are very rarely negative comments, which could mean that comments are screened, yes. However, for us to write about this in the article after observing it ourselves, would be original research, and that is against one of our most important guidelines. So, that's why I say, if it's so obvious, then surely there will be some reliable sources for the information, which can easily be cited. Also, please sign your talk page messages by putting ~~~~ at the end. --Dreaded Walrus t c 21:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
A bigger issue to me is the fact that I got banned for repeatedly pointing out inaccuracies in their stories. Instead of improving their editorial technique, they banned a critic of their inaccurate stories. Personally, thats a lot worse than filtering comments (which they don't do as my original posts stayed) Plkrtn 14:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Quite possibly. I have seen a few forums (NeoGAF being one of them) who ban people who go against the hivemind. Again, if we can find a good reliable source reporting this, I would be all for the inclusion of it. :) --Dreaded Walrus t c 14:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

http://kotaku.com/5008653/americans-brag-ps3-no-letdown-kotaku-is-wrong#c5642960 almarota1979 were banned after what they said and so was MizzDiva. What kind of proof ar eyou looking for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.233.38.114 (talk) 08:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sony incident

Did a mild write up of it and got the general jist of what happened. --~XHideoNinja 09:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I removed part of the sentence that says Kotaku was at fault and all that. On Wiki, it's better to just comment on it, not who started, especially such a hot incident. --~Entegy

Fair enough, and will have to keep up with this wiki a bit more over the next few days due for the potential for other vandalism --~XHideoNinja 16:11, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

That particular bit of the section seems to have been added by User:68.98.207.36. I removed it originally, but it seems to have been readded afterwards, which is when User:Entegy removed it. You're right, Wikipedia should generally just provide the facts, and not tell readers what their opinions should be. And in this case, that particular user was wrong, anyway. No journalist should really be told what they can and can't write by an outside party (in my opinion). --Dreaded Walrus 12:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Those were removed so fast, I didn't even know what reference Entegy was making til after I looked it up. The base of what I wrote up is a neutral as I can make it (nothing I believe, is completely neutral), but because this is a hot topic (thats dying down) you are bound to get those. Thanks for clearing that up Walrus. --~XHideoNinja 18:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, your version of the section is quite neutral, I'd say. I put the tag there before deciding to remove the sentence on it being their fault. I'll remove the POV tag now. :) --Dreaded Walrus 19:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Sony slant

The fact that Kotaku has an anti-Sony slant should be included in this article. It's a well-known fact with many of kotaku's own articles to back it up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.204.26.65 (talk • contribs).

If it is a "well-known fact", with many things proving it, perhaps you won't mind providing citations from reliable sources for such an accusation? :) --Dreaded Walrus 23:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, one of the editor of Kotaku is a PS fanboy, so that is completely unfounded.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by George Leung (talk • contribs).

--Which editor is the sony/ps fanboy, can you provide citations from reliable sources. 67.70.109.9 07:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

--You'll find that a variety of different readers think we have an anti-Sony slant, an anti-Microsoft slant or an anti-Nintendo slant which probably just means we're doing our job and covering all three companies well. Brian Crecente (69.91.71.252 12:51, 23 May 2007 (UTC))

--"The fact that Kotaku has an anti-Sony slant should be included in this article." - I agree. It is very anti Sony (like many other gaming blogs... It's not as bad as Joystiq). We just need someone to cite. 203.55.195.106 12:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

How on earth is Kotaku anti-Sony? I might be a Nintendo "fanboy" myself, but Kotaku is cool because it's not anti anything. It just says things the way they are. If they were any different they would be called IGN or Gamespot. Link's Awakening 22:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Links Awakening your comment means nothing based on a bunch of your previous comments, it's obvious you are here to disagree just because of a petty hatred against the console/company. You admitting yourself that you are a "Nintendo Fanboy" further makes the comment invalid.
Here's a nice little comment from him-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:PlayStation_3/Archive_16#3.07_million_PS3.27s_sold
70.48.32.12 09:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

...Wow... Just WTF are you? A stalker or something? The only reason I can think of, of why anyone would remember a few comments I made that long ago, is if you were such a Sony fanboy that the comments really offended you that much. Of course you would freaking say that my comment means nothing! And I say that your comment means even less than nothing because you're obviously just a little Sony fanatic that can't accept anything negative about the PS3. I said I liked Kotaku because they aren't biased against anything moron. I like that they make negative comments about Nintendo, because they're just doing their jobs right. Sony fanboys like you are just too sensitive and can't take it when something comes up that is anti-Sony, so you come here on the Wiki discussions page and start saying they're biased. They aren't biased. YOU'RE BIASED. And your comment is bullshit because me being a Nintendo fan and my previous comments have absolutely no freaking thing to do with what I was saying NOW about Kotaku. And why don't actually you grow the balls to sign in on your Wiki account when you make a comment against someone, instead of hiding behind anonymity like a pansy? Link's Awakening 22:53, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking a similar thing. Well, with regards to the bizarre trawl through your contributions, and without the attacks. :P --Dreaded Walrus t c 23:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Seriously grow up, it isn't very hard to look at someones past contributions. Less than a minutes reading/searching for someone with average reading comprehension and general internet explorer/wikipedia knowledge. What is so bizarre about it? You see someone completely one siding a discussion, so you would like to see if they have been like this previous to the debate at hand, in this case it's confirmed. 76.64.57.192 09:45, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Oh and another note to "trolls awakening" - I did NOT, keyword "NOT", start this discussion topic. 76.64.57.192 09:54, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
(after edit conflict with 76.64.57.192's addendum directly above) I know it's not difficult to look through past contributions, and I do it myself on regular occasions (such as after reverting vandalism/spam, to see if there is any other vandalism/spam from that user that hasn't been reverted yet). I just thought it was a bit strange to go to such lengths to.. well, I don't know what the reason was, actually. Yes, Link's Awakening is a fan of Nintendo, and he doesn't like Sony. That is common nowadays among many gamers, particularly if he is from Europe (I don't know if he is or not), due to how Sony have treat Europe in the recent past. But how does this influence his ability to see whether something else is neutral? In my opinion, Kotaku are definitely not anti-Sony, and I say this as a fanboy of no particular console, who, if anything, had many of their best experiences of the last generation, playing games that were on the PlayStation 2. --Dreaded Walrus t c 10:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I am still debating on their neutrality myself, it mostly seems like they're out for the ps3. But reading the updated discussion and comment he put there it all seemed too much like some console war tripe. I love my snes and nes, I grew up with them, but in no way is that going to cloud my mind on a media source which seems to have a cloud hanging above it. ALOT of his comments were biased in some form or way, I couldn't find any general positive ones towards the ps3 or pretty much any sony product. I could say the same about you: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dreaded_Walrus#PS3.21" but your discussions aren't slamming the brand/console, which would make my point invalid. By slamming, I think you would understand what I mean. 76.64.57.192 10:20, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I realise exactly what you mean, and I have no real reason to 'slam' the PS3. The comment you link to is a comment from me, 7 and a half months ago, saying I was looking forward to Wii, and praising Nintendo for releasing the console over here (Europe) relatively soon after the North American launch, for not much more in terms of price, and with no cutbacks on the console side of things. Meanwhile, the PS3 launched over here 6 months after the US launch, for a couple of hundred dollars higher, without the PS2 and PS1 compatibility hardware in it. Add to that numerous comments Sony have made about Europe, and there are many people over here who weren't very happy with the way they treated us.
Still, I am not a man to hold grudges (what is the point?), and I will pretty much certainly getting a PS3 the very moment they release LittleBigPlanet, which I have been looking forward to ever since the announcement. :) --Dreaded Walrus t c 11:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Has anyone checked Links Awakening IP behind his username compared to the recent vandalism and unrelated topics. I've a pretty good feeling this troll has been weeded out. 76.64.194.250 04:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
No, that troll hasn't been weeded out. I know the guy that did that, and he's just a random vandal who lurks eBaum's World's forums.--BaldsRTouching 08:19, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the second link you post is probably intended more as a satire on the Kotaku's perceived habit of posting obvious things, or endless posts about cakes. But with regards to the IP check thing, the only people able to do that are those with checkuser access, so you would have to put a request there, if that's what you wanted. Though I doubt it would actually happen in this instance, as there has to be a solid reason, as it can be classed as an invasion of privacy in some cases. --Dreaded Walrus t c 05:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
On a seeming unrelated note, it seems Crecence has been doing some Wikiposting here at Kotaku-Wiki (thank you Wiki-scanner!) Wount release details since he doesn't have a true name and uses an ip (which I whois traced to CO, his home state) But just interesting to see an editor take notice on the site (or someone whose good at faking him). ^-^ --~XHideoNinja 21:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Yep, Crecente contacted me on my talk page back in June (around the time that there was heavy editing on this page, and the article on him at Brian Crecente was deleted. The message can be found in my talk page archives if needed) to explain his version of things. He didn't really try to hide the fact that it was him, although since then he has made three edits last month using that same IP address, one of which was perhaps a bit suspect. The interesting thing about Wikipedia Scanner is that it uses the information that is already made public by Wikipedia, which is pretty much viewable by anyone, and also takes information from WHOIS reports. And then, it compiles those two things into an easily searchable database. The unfortunate thing is, all it will lead to is more people and companies creating throwaway accounts to do their biased editing (as is possibly the case, for example, at StarForce with User:Sopinsci). As Wikipedia doesn't make the IP addresses of registered users public, there are undoubtedly many many more questionable edits being made by registered users from within the related companies. Anyway, I'm rambling now. Goodnight! :P --Dreaded Walrus t c 22:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I saw Walrus :P, but if you couldn't tell, I didn't want to overwhelmingly give a ton of details away. One persons ip address is like his or her home address in my mind. With research, it is easy to find, but that still doesn't mean you should go shouting it out to everyone in the world to see and hear. And on a side note, I'm planning a few edits for kotaku, with some content on their newer features (Hyper mutitap and the new justify your game features.) Possibly even make mention that jack thompson is a forum poster there.--~XHideoNinja 20:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What does Kotaku mean?

Otaku means some sort of fanboy I take it, but what does Kotaku mean? 82.166.150.238 14:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

They just made it up. Link's Awakening (talk) 06:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

It comes from Otaku and japanese of Ko which means little. --~XHideoNinja (talk) 06:15, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Lol, no. They've even said that they made it up. Link's Awakening (talk) 06:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a reference for where they said they made it up? ~XHideoNinja (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Ko does not mean "small" in Japanese (it literally means child, but it has a couple subjective meanings). I don't know if they made it up or not, but Kotaku is not a word that exists in the Japanese language to my knowledge. --Skyoon (talk) 08:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting account?

I know this probably isn't the place, but how on earth do you delete your account with gawker/kotaku? There's no ability from the interface nor directions anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.100.238 (talk) 01:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tub girl incident?

Does this really need to be made mention to here? This is an encyclopedia, not a slander form about kotaku. This was trivial at best. The neutrality of it is also REALLY in question. It comes off like someone has a real slant against kotaku. Recommending we remove it. --~XHideoNinja (talk) 06:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)