Talk:Korea Jindo Dog

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[edit] Date of national treasure Jindo Dog listing?

Can someone verify somewhere the year in which the Korea Jindo Dog became a national treasure? An anon user dinked with the year in the article and all I can find on the web so far are duplicates of the wikipedia article. Elf | Talk 21:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Since Korea did not have its own government in 1938 (being under Japanese rule), and since the "no. X national treasure" business is peculiar to the South Korean government, I'm willing to bet that the anon is right. -- Visviva 09:16, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
The Cultural Heritage Administration of Korea [1] avers that 1962 is correct, and also that the Jindo dog is a natural monument (천연기념물), not a cultural one. I was interested to discover through another source that the Japanese colonial administration did actually have a Chosen Cultural Treasures law of some sort, but I can't find any information about what it covered. -- Visviva 09:39, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Copied from Korean discussion page:

it was apparently originally designated a national treasure in 1938 (under japanese colonial gov't), but with the 1962 national treasure protection law, it was re-designated & protected. korean wikipedia has 1962 as the date of designation. Appleby 22:03, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Do you have reference for that info that I can cite? Elf | Talk 22:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
i found it in the first three korean results here [2] it seems undisputed, but i guess these have the most legitimate-sounding url's: [3] [4] [5] [6] Appleby 22:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

I dont think that the dog in the name box is Jindo dog. It is half-breed or ddonggae. --Hairwizard91 02:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Further Picture Comments

Most of the dogs pictured do not appear to be purebred Jindos. Although there is nothing really wrong with that, it should at least be called out since they are not an accurate reference for the breed. I've done my best to determine which are most likely to be mixes or non-Jindos.

First Picture - Possibly Pure
Second Picture - Possibly Pure (although Jindo tails do not typically curl over like a Shiba).
Third Picture - Very difficult to tell due to limited view of the dog.
Fourth Picture - Very unlikely to be a Jindo. It looks like a shepherd mix perhaps.
Fifth Picture - Not a pure Jindo. The obvious sign is the tail which is not fluffy on a Jindo.

Shadlingfae (talk) 05:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editing History Section

I have deleted the paragraph in the History section about Jindo dogs being eaten by Koreans during Korean War. It is true that food was very scarce during the war and many Koreans resorted to eating whatever they could get their hands on including dogs but Jindo dogs were not specifically chosen to be eaten. The whole section is irrelevant. If anybody disagrees, please cite reliable sources to refute my position.

I also intend to delete the paragraph about the WWII and Japanese actions as it seems completely groundless. I have not seen any sources in either Korean or English that discuss what was described in the paragraph. If anyone objects to this potential edit, please state your opinion here.

Gillyruless 14:41, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major Edits

I intend to do a major update of the article over the coming weeks using the FCI breed standard document and the articles on the Jindo County's Jindo dog page as it is of poor quality and includes items that seem to be factually inaccurate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gillyruless (talk • contribs) 21:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Name

Just sort of casually reading this article confused me. What is the actual name of this breed? "Korea Jindo dog", "Korean Jindo dog", "Jindo Dog, "Jindo dog", or "Jindo"?

  • I believe "Korea Jindo Dog" is the official AKC designation... of course in Korea it's just known as the "Jindo Dog," and "Jindo" is the natural short form in either case. Capitalization varies based on one's understanding of whether dog breed names are proper nouns or not. -- Visviva 02:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • The AKC doesn't recognize the Jindo as a breed. The Kennel Club in the UK, however, has accepted the breed and officially refers to it as the "Korean Jindo". I think the addition of "Dog" helps to call out the dog versus the island. Shadlingfae (talk) 05:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fluff Piece

This whole article is pretty horribly biased, saying such wonderful things about the "renowned" Jindo, comparing it to other dogs unfairly without sources or anythings. I think this whole article needs to be re written. Maybe by a vet or something.

Agreed. The article is extremely bias and rather counter to information I've received from my vet. I have a Jindo mix, and have met with vets and breeders to discuss Jindo and Jindo mix dogs many times. In the article, other than the size standards for the dogs, parts such as Jindo's being "gentlemanly" is counter to what I've come to be informed by vets and breeders about Jindo dogs. One breeder told me that Jindo dogs are of national pride but are not as gentle as some would like to believe them to be. They are indeed very loyal and this trait often causes them to be extremely protective of their owner, which can result in displays of aggression. My dog displays this trait very clearly. Yeah, yeah, I know, I can't use any of this as citation, yadda yadda, but more detailed - perhaps non-Korean - sources should be more deeply looked into for the article. A sidebar: they are beautiful dogs. --Bentonia School (talk) 14:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)