Talk:Konstanz

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[edit] Use of English

In 1460 the Swiss Confederacy conquered the Thurgau, Konstanz's natural hinterland. Konstanz then made an attempt to get admitted to the Swiss Confederacy, but the forest cantons voted against its entry, fearing an overmight of the city cantons. Konstanz then entered the Swabian League instead. In the Swabian War of 1499, Konstanz lost its last privileges over the Thurgau to the Confederation.

Couple of questions

1. What is 'overmight'? I suspect 'overmight' is a direct translation from German - should we consider [b]fearing overbearing city cantons[/b] instead? Also English readers may not be familiar with [b]Canton[/b] so could "City State" be used instead?

2. What is 'The Thurgau"? Okay I know Thurgau is a Swiss canton - consider using just "Thurgau" (droping 'the') or use "the Thurgau region" maybe?

New Wording

In 1460 the Swiss Confederacy conquered Thurgau, Konstanz's natural hinterland. Konstanz then made an attempt to get admitted to the Swiss Confederacy, but the forest cantons voted against its entry, fearing over-bearing city states; Konstanz then entered the Swabian League instead. In the Swabian War of 1499, Konstanz lost its last privileges over Thurgau to the Confederation.

DamienLaughton 16:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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Munich is not really close (by European measures) from Konstanz, so referring someone who does not like the slow pace of life in Konstanz to Munich is somehow not related to the town Konstanz. Dub4u 20:32, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The Swabian War was 1499. See Old Swiss Confederacy#Further expansion, last paragraph, for a brief summary of the events surrounding the Thurgau in 1460. Also note that Konstanz kept exercising the higher jurisdiction over the Thurgau until 1499 (see Swabian War). Lupo 11:12, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out. I think it should be correct now. Zirk 13:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reformation

The article currently (06:59, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)) reads "However, in 1548 Emperor Charles V imposed the Imperial Ban on Konstanz and it had to surrender to Habsburg Austria which had immediately attacked. Thus, Konstanz lost its status as imperial city as well as the last remainder of its former glory."

1. That needs references (as does the article in general). What were the sources for that "History" section?
2. Hadn't Konstanz been a member of the Schmalkaldic League?
3. Did Charles V ban Konstanz or the members of the Schmalkaldic League in general?
4. The mention of "Habsburg Austria", which links to Austria, is somewhat misleading. Charles V was a Habsburg emperor.
5. What's that stuff about "former glory"?

Lupo 06:59, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

1. The main source for the History section is the German Wikipedia article. Is there a special place for sources? I haven't figured that out yet.
2. Konstanz entered the Schmalkaldic League in 1531
3. Konstanz was banned because it refused to accept the terms of the Augsburg Interim unlike the other members of the Schmalkaldic League. It was attacked the August 6, the day after the ban had been pronounced.
4. Konstanz was attacked by Austria which at that time was ruled by Charles V's brother Ferdinand and not by the Holy Roman Emperor.
5. In the Middle Ages Konstanz had interregional importance for trade and linen production.

Zirk 11:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)