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[edit] Missing Units

Why is there no mention of Brittania's aquatic KFs? Also, what about the Knightmare of Nunally units? 24.7.201.100 21:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Same for the Raikou (that big gauss cannon mounted on four Glasgows), although that thing may or may not count as proper KFs. Nautilusfossil 07:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
We should definitely put in Gawain, which according to some spoilers on the web, is gonna get stolen by Lulu. It can be piloted by one person, but optimized by two. Obviously, it has insane amount of missiles, as well as two extremely powerful cannon. George Leung 05:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

The page is sitll missing the Portman (Brittanian Aquatic KFs), they Ganymede (Frame used at the high scool to make the pizza), the Chinese Knightmare Frames, and the Raikou (Made of 4 Glasgow's holding a big cannon). 24.7.201.100 20:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I could take care of the Raikou and the Knight Police mechs. I have other things to take care of first... 70.68.55.148 07:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
The Chinese KFs are called Gan Lius, as least that's what I've heard. IMO, not much info is available aside from having anti-KF/personnel machine guns. Ominae 08:15, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Done the Knight Police stuff. I could do Raikou by a few days. Ominae 05:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I'd be interested if there was more on the Gan Lius. Are they really KFs proper, or something of a transition between the tanks and the mechs? I ask because I don't recall seeing arms or legs (or, conversely, I saw what might have been three fairly stationary legs). Also, any word on what those giant tan things were in Area 18/Serbia? Are these two models related somehow? It also seems Schniesel's guys have a unique model. What are those shoulder-mounted things?

[edit] Toudou's Unit

What was the name of Toudo's custom unit? I think it was named after a Knight who betrayed the real-life Lancelot. -- Psi edit 06:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Toudo pilots a Custom Gekka episode 17 onward, and a name is not mentioned. Episode 18 shows the Gawain in the OP, but I don't think it deserves mention in the article yet, as we have no specifications.
The DS game does refer to it as the Gekka Custom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.162.215.181 (talk) 03:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hold your horses...

The Gawain has not yet appeared on the KF page on the official website. Moreover, the magazine scans featuring it aren't particularly verbose on the matter and discussion about it is cluttered with speculation - like the fact that Gawain has 'insane amounts of missiles'...which is untrue. The only scan I saw showed two hadron cannons and Slash Harkens on the fingertips (yes, you read that right...the fingers are actually Slash Harkens)...aside from that, no specifications. So, until data pops up, please refrain from posting what has NOT been confirmed or seen yet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.247.166.172 (talk) 18:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Incomplete Guren Nishiki entry?

Although it isn't mentioned in the article, the Guren is occasionally seen in the series using some sort of dagger-like weapon in its left hand. While it's not apparent in every battle, it's quite distinct in its first appearance at the Battle of Narita; while clearly designed for the Guren, it does not appear to be incorporated into the Knightmare itself. I don't know what it's called, though, and thus any information I add to the article would look out of place; rather, I ask this article's main contributors or any others who have access to the information sources used for this article to please confirm and verify this information and add it to the article. 70.118.112.83 04:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

With the new Aerial Type Edition; an image that reflects the Guren's new capabilities should be added; not one which merely shows the Radiation Arm of the Guren Nikishi; which could probably be assumed to be taken of the first season. (ShushKebab (talk) 07:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Tonfas in Knightmare Frames?

Are they the "tonfas" or just blade-like weapons since the Knight Police frames use combat knives... Just want to clarify this position. Ominae 05:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Gawain

The Gawain does not actually have Landspinners.

It uses the Float System to move around.

ok screw that, i just watched the ep where he gets gawain and it does indeed have them... they must have removed them or something later. changing it back now. 68.238.83.27 (talk) 21:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

68.238.83.27 (talk) 01:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone put info about a new Gawain model kit showing a new design, so it still survives in R2. I've yet to see a picture of the redesigned Gawain, so I've deleted the false info.

[edit] Lost Colors mechs?

What about the Lancelot Z-01 Club and the prototype Gekka? Should we add them too? Ominae (talk) 02:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Mechs on R2 Website.

http://geass.jp/world_04.html?pid=mecha_13.html - Portman II
http://geass.jp/world_04.html?pid=mecha_15.html - Akatsuki - New Japanese Mass-Production Type, based off of Gekka. Shiseiken has their own custom versions.
http://geass.jp/world_04.html?pid=mecha_14.html - Zangetsu - Toudou's new custom machine.
http://geass.jp/world_04.html?pid=mecha_16.html - Shenfu - Chinese Custom Knightmare
http://geass.jp/world_04.html?pid=mecha_18.html - MR1 - Ashford Knightmare, used in episode 5.
http://geass.jp/world_04.html?pid=mecha_03.html - Lancelot Conquestor (Lancelot with Hadron Blaster and Float Unit Equipped)
http://www.geass.jp/world_04.html?pid=mecha_01b.html - Guren Portable-Type --Robtf (talk) 03:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Get Rid of All the DS PiCs and instead put up the one's of the anime

The mechs only in lost colors should not have pics with them becasue they are not part of cannon. They should be seperated from the rest.

Guren Flight Capable Typle, Lancelot Conquiesta, and ShenHu should have pics respectively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.225.211 (talk) 22:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zangetsu and Reorganisation.

I'm of the belief that the Zangetsu should not be grouped under the Akatsuki. While it is more than probably true that it's based off the Akatsuki, by that same logic the Akatsuki should be sub-categorised under the Gekka as it is obviously based on it. It's the same with the Gekka, which is obviously based on the design of the Guren and therefore be sub-categorised under the Guren though the same logic. Zangetsu for all intents and purposes is considered a seperate machine from Akatsuki on the official website, it should at least be given the same respect for this article.

Onto my second point, the Britannian models section seems to be an organisational mess, it seems to be in the order of appearance but this is contradicted by the fact that the Lancelot, which was actually the third to appear, is listed first. Sub-categorising "Vincent" under "Vincent Prototype" is also quite odd, since it should actually be the other way around. I propose listing all custom machines (with the exception of custom versions of mass-production machines) at the end while mass-production models are listed first, similar to the way the Japanese models section is organised. Robtf (talk) 11:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Vincent - Guilford's Unit.

It can't be confirmed that all Vincents are in the color of Purple & White; so the page regarding the Vincent should be edited to reflect that all the mass-production Vincents may have a different color to them. (ShushKebab (talk) 07:13, 17 May 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Knightmares put in order

The KF in this article must be placed in order of both its model's series & apperance.

The paragraph of the Brittanian models looks jumbled up, because you don't know which model begun with. The Glasgow should be placed first, because it was its earlier generation models. After that was the Sutherland, then the Glousters, then the Portman, then the Lancelot, then the Gawain, then the Seigfried, then the Tristan, and then the Mordred.

The Japanese models should be placed in order of apperance. The Burai should be placed first, because the Japanese Knightmares started with that, after that was the Guren, then the Gekka, then the Akatski, and the Zangetsu.

Why jumble them? SilentmanX (talk) 11:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Jumbled to you, maybe, but not to readers. Readers trying to find something will have to sort through a mess of nonsensically arranged (from their point of view) items to find a singular entry, whereas alphabetical order is viewer friendly. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 21:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Jumbled to me as well. For an article that functions just as much as a fictional tech timeline as it does a listing of different mechs, it should probably stay consistent with the former. All these frames have enterences into the story somewhere, rather than just appearing on screen while having always 'been there' in the continuity. Alphabetical ordering is fine for a list, but this is much more than a simple list. Each of these mechs comes with it's own story of how it entered the series. -Biokinetica (talk) 20:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Not really. Once you pass the Glasgows, all you have is an assortment of more or less random mechs only arranged by episode introduction, which is never a good way to organize content. If you want a timeline, that's better for the mech history section, which does at least lay out the first few Brit models. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 01:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)