User:Kleinzach/Opera singers

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Basic statistics: 50,789 articles placeholders were used to upload 462 images (figure provided by Genisock2) for a success rate of less than 1 percent.

Kleinzach asked: (1) Is it really worth the effort involved in inserting the placeholder in so many pages when there is so little to be gained? and (2) Is it reasonable to display a distracting graphic on 100 pages for the sake of (perhaps) getting a picture on only one of them?

This led to a wide-ranging discussion, much of it aimed at getting more information about how the system was working.

Those who believed the system ineffective argued that placeholders:

  • 1. Defaced articles. (TJRC)
  • 2. Stated the obvious. (Fishal)
  • 3. Were disingenuous regarding image licensing/legal rights. (Jaksmata)
  • 4. Were an additional “WikiComplexity”. (Drhoehl)
  • 5. Invited fakes or copyright violations. (Nrswanson, S.dedalus, Gimmetrow)
Moreover:
  • 6. Upload images were often of poor quality. (Northwesterner1)
  • 7. System was aimed at the wrong people. (Kleinzach)
  • 8. The low success rate would be unacceptable for copyediting tags. (Myke Cuthbert)

Those who believed the system was effective argued that the placeholders:

Moreover:

Others pointed out that statistics not been collected effectively and it was difficult to know whether the placeholder system led to more images being uploaded. (Gimmetrow, BrownHairedGirl, PC78)

Jmabel suggested starting a specialized WikiProject for acquiring images.

(Summary by --Kleinzach)

[edit] Later 20th century/contemporary missing singers

Contemporary singers:

Stefania Bonfadelli, Larissa Diadkova, Vladimir Galouzine, Catherine Naglestad, David Pittman-Jennings, Dario Volonté

End 20th century: Gilda Cruz Romo, Ilona Tokody, Irene Dalis

And the following important historic singers: Blanche Marchesi, Ilona Tokody, Irene Dalis, Mary Curtis-Verna,

Beno Blachut, Mark Delavan, Miklos Gafni, Alexander Svéd, Flaviano Labò,

Olimpia Boronat, Maria Ivögun, Milizia Korjus, Richard Mayr, Toti Del Monte, Lotte Schöne, Dimitri Smirnov,

[edit] German singers of th 1920s and 1930s lacking articles

Marcel Wittrisch, Herbert Ernst Groh, Karl Hammes, Rudolf Bocklemann, Alfred Jerger, Leo Schützendorf, Wilhelm Strienz

Karin Branzell, Maria Olczewska, Rosette Anday, Marta Fuchs, Lula Mysz-Gmeiner, Jo Vincent, Ria Ginster, Ursula van Diemen, Lotte Schöne, Fritzi Jokl, Adele Kern, Emmy Bettendorf, Margherita Perras, Luise Helletsgruber, Delia Reinhardt, Rose Pauly, Göta Ljungberg, Elisabeth Ohms, Nanny Larsen-Todsen