Talk:Kingdom of Chile

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I think there is a problem with this article as, in my opinion, is not completly accurate with the Spanish Empire administrative organisation, i tried to explain (the best I could remembering my old classes in University and my poor english) that in old spanish Reyno (compared to modern Reino) was more descriptive of a geographical unity rather than a political one. This can lead to confussion since politically there was not a Kingdom of Spain until the Borbon instauration in 1700, but several kingdoms inside and outside the Iberian Peninsula. Spain was in that sense a Reyno before becoming a Reino. Each of this independent kingdoms were engaged in Spain in a personal union by the Spanish King, since the time of Charles I.

The Chilean kingdom (el Reyno de Chile) was a posession of the King of Castile (and then a geographycal entity more than a political one) as there were all other spanish posessions in the New World. Naples or Sicily in the other hand where posessions of the King of Aragon, which happens to be the same person. There was not common administrative apparatus between different independent Reinos, and each one was governed by the King and its own Council, and its own laws. The day a day work was lead mostly by Viceroys to represent the King´s will e.g. in Aragon, Sicily, Mexico or Peru, for example.

Chile never reach the status of a Viceroyalty (was too small and too poor for that) but of a Captaincy General , dependent of the Peruvian Viceroyalty. Therefore, in English maybe it should be more appropiated refer to colonial Chile as a Realm under the rule of the Castilian (and later Spanish) King, rather than a Kingdom... which was not.

that, of course, in my very humble opinion...

— I think you are quite right. Chile have never achieved the status of a Reyno or Kingdom (these were the old Kingdoms of Castilla, Navarra, Aragón) but the one of a capitanía general. Other posessions of Spain in the Americas were under a Viceroy, such as the ones of Perú, Río de la Plata, Nueva Granada and Nueva España. Moreover there is another problem to discuss in this article: namely the map that shows the apparent extension of the chilean Kingdom, that not only reaches the southest islands of South America, namely Tierra del Fuego, but also the Atlantic coast till the actual province of La Pampa in Argentina. Accually were these lands till late in the 19th century populated by indigenous and native people and were never settled by Spaniards or people under Spanish rule. These native people remained independent till the new republics of Argentina and Chile hastened to get control of them in the 1880s and 1890s. I think therefore that this article violates the neutrality that an article needs in order to achieve an academic and accurate level. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.66.43.7 (talk) 18:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Agree. This article should be about the use of the term Kingdom of Chile and not about the General Captaincy of Chile. It should maybe have an explanatory note on its introduction that links to the General Captaincy of Chile. Dentren | ^Talk 08:13, 8 November 2007 (UTC)