Talk:King (playing card)
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Charles Magne is often portrayed carrying his Imperial Orb. In the Urban Legend link, the Charles card in the first set is clearly the hearts, but in the latter, it looks like clubs. I saw somewhere on a older version of some playing cards related wikipedian article a complete naming of all cards showing Charles as being of clubs, unfortunatelly I lost it. It explained well the controversy, sorry it got lost. 189.5.169.174 23:45, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
The Four King Thruth link below shows us in a first set of cards a King of Hearts holding an imperial orb in a way much like the King of Clubs of the second cards set, and very like Charlemagne as portrayed here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Charlemagne-by-Durer.jpg Besides, in http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~daf/i-p-c-s.org/faq/history_13.php (see also of transformation playing cards), there are two main patterns of royal families. The deck clearly seen on this article photo shows an Rouen pattern with Charlemagne as Clubs. Based on that, and that all decks I've ever saw were like those, I'm fixing jack and queen articles to look rouenian. 189.5.137.204 03:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

