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The main KSU campus is not quite what I'd consider an urban campus. Its setting compares to that of Ohio University (called a rural campus on WP), Miami University (a "small town campus"), University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (an "urban campus"), and other campuses set in cities of populations in the range of 20 000 to 40 000. Urban campuses would be more along the lines of the nearby University of Akron. Perhaps another, new term could be found to designate these campuses which aren't quite urban, but are a bit more bustling than small town and rural campuses? -- SwissCelt 00:15, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I attended the KSU main campus for four years, and I'd agree with the above comment. Perhaps "college town" would be more appropriate? It's not really suburban, since both Akron and Cleveland are too far to really be considered the city, but it's not isolated enough to really consider it rural.

Actually, "today, Kent is the largest city in Portage County and according to the 1990 census, the population is 28,835." according to Kentohio.org The campus is certainly not urban, however the city is not tiny. I would also not say that it is rural, either. Northeast Ohio in general is a unique spread of suburban/urban growth. As the largest population center in the state, most of its cities are within 30min to one and a half hours drive from Cleveland. vkxmai 01:50, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I corrected the enrollment info. Here is my reference. DKS Article from 2005 vkxmai 04:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Recent deletions 2 Sports Teams 3 May 4, 1970 4 Location of food 5 Recent Edits 6 Changes 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Regionalksu.png

[edit] Recent deletions

I noted that many of the bulletpoints about notable programs at Kent State were recently deleted from this article. Would anyone like to comment on this? Maybe we can go through what was taken out and re-write them if they need it? --DangApricot 18:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sports Teams

I recently added links to the section on Sports teams, but the links were taken out of about half of the sports. While I would say that a few of them could be combined,(i.e. Men's and Women's Basketball) I think that the partial link formatting looks bad. Reverting back to all linked until we can talk it through. Thanks, Stealthound 03:40, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I re-did them (I only removed duplicate links) because it isn't necessary to have multiple links to the same page on consecutive lines, like having both Men's Cross Country and Women's Cross Country linked to the Cross Country page. I think that looks bad. It makes it look like there are two separate articles on Men's and Women's Cross Country, when in reality there is only one article on Cross Country. I searched each sport listed there that had a listing for both men and women and only basketball and golf had separate articles. Only one link is necessary and it should only be on the word or phrase that best describes the link. For instance, in the case of Women's Basketball, there is an article titled "Women's basketball," so I formatted both words. In the case of "Men's Basketball," the article connected to it is simply "basketball," (it talks of the sport in general), so I formatted only basketball so there's no confusion. I also don't think it looks bad when you have only certain words link formatted...that's how the entire article looks and that's how all the pages on Wikipedia look...some words are formatted, while unimportant words are not. Like I said, it makes it a little clearer where the link will lead you should you follow it. You link format the words that have legitimate links and that are closest to the title or subject of the ariticle linking to. --JonRidinger 07:37, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] May 4, 1970

There is a small detail in Kent State's history that received barely a peep in this article: FOUR STUDENTS WERE SHOT! How in the world could you omit such an important event?! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.247.5.125 (talk) 09:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

• There is an entire article on the Kent State shootings which is why there is not a detailed account of the events around May 4 in the article on Kent State. It would be unnecessarily redundant. There are many things that make Kent State what it is today, not just May 4. It is by no means "omitted" from the Kent State article, but is treated as any other part of the history of the university, with a link to the main article on that event. And actually, thirteen students were shot, four of them died. --JonRidinger 01:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Location of food

no mention was made regarding the location of vending machines with free doughnuts —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.244.31.59 (talk) 09:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Recent Edits

Honestly some of the stuff added to this article is an improvement but a litany of new pictures right in the middle (pictures are fine but there are like 40 pictures of buildings and they're right by the top, which is non-standard) is unnecessary, and some of the new text additions strike me as a little bit NPOV in some cases. Also, the section on Kent itself isn't needed as there is already a link to that article. Cwilli201 00:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

• I agree that the article seems to be getting cluttered and is unorganized. For the pictures, one suggestion would be to remove duplicate shots of the same building...for instance, I think I counted at least three pictures of the library in the daytime. The pics are GREAT, but too many can take away from the article. There are some general organization things too, like maybe putting the picture gallery in the Student Life section (which has a list of all the dorms anyway) and merge the Administration Changes paragraph with the History section. Also, I agree that the Kent, Ohio section really isn't needed since there is an entire article on Kent and several links to it in the article. The pics used in that section are all aerials of the University anyway (not Kent in general), so they could still be used in other areas of the article. I'd also like to see the History section expanded with additional pictures besides just the Kent State shootings one. There is a lot more to KSU's history than just that event. Look at other university articles for more ideas as well and for models of what this page could look like.--JonRidinger 08:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

I've added some more info and organized some photos that were originally placed at the bottom. I'm beginning to learn how to do this editing stuff. If you have any questions let me know.

Thanks for all your work, especially the pictures. It has really added to the KSU article. My only advice is to be careful to not just cut and paste paragraphs directly from a given website; take the info and write your own part of the article because Wikipedia has a rule that material copied directly from other websites will be deleted. --JonRidinger 16:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Good to know! Thanks

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Regionalksu.png

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)