Talk:Ken Hutcherson

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Contents 1 Wikify 2 Bias 3 Added Quotes 4 Gay Rights as a Civil Rights movement 5 In the news again

[edit] Wikify

Would someone please wikify the last section about the FBI investigation?

[edit] Bias

This article is incredibly pro-gay biased. By calling the issue "gay rights" you are insinuating it's a right, a more neutral term should be used such as "gay civil issues". The quotes that were picked out were also very selective to deliberately make him look bad...wikipedia should have higher standards than this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.219.162.45 (talk) 02:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Aside from a football career of minor significance, Ken's only claim to notability is his hatred of gay people. Why don't you edit the article yourself if you feel that it's biased? PenguinJockey (talk) 20:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Clearly this "biography" of Ken Hutcherson is biased. As head pastor of a large church, Ken has certainly done more in his life than speak out against homosexuals. Any quotes from the biased "source" The Stranger should be deleted. And as though a very important, leading individual of the gay community, The Gay Curmudgeon, can write or edit something without a slant. Of course ultimately, the fact that anyone can write and edit Wikipedia articles makes it so it will never be a legitimate source, period. Icemaidn68 (talk) 05:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Added Quotes

I've added a number of quotes from various sources, the vast majority of them are from either major television or print news sources and are cited appropriately. However there are a few sources that I'm not sure are acceptable for some of the quotes. For example, there is a source that is a blog that monitors talk radio. The only reason that I included them is that I was at the event and had the same quotes in my notes. However, based on the reliable sources and no original research dictums I'm concerned that they need to be removed.

I'd appreciate advice from more experienced hands on this. GayCurmudgeon 22:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Blogs are usually opinion and commentary and, thus, do not count as a valid source. However, if you can cite the radio program itself, then that would be a valid source. And by the way, you are doing a bang-up job with these revisions. Thanks for cleaning up the article and keeping things current. TechBear 03:46, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

To revisit the quotes section in the article.... There is a flag saying that the article has too many quotes. I'm inclined to agree. The quotes are interesting but do not really add any value to the article. Unless there is some dissent, I will remove the entire section in five days. TechBear (talk) 21:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Regarding moving the quotations, are they going to be moved over to WikiQuote or deleted outright? I spent beaucoup time cleaning the quotes up and adding to them so I'd like to preserve the work somewhere.GayCurmudgeon (talk) 23:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I've added a new section on Shareholder Advocacy to capture the latest developments, and fixed 3 or 4 missing citations that had been flagged in the rest of the article. Is there a specific way to cite a recording or a reference to an MP3 file when there is no trusted transcript or other text source? GayCurmudgeon (talk) 23:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gay Rights as a Civil Rights movement

This section opened with "As an African American...". I changed this because it assumes that all African-Americans are opposed to equal rights (such as marriage) for gays and lesbians -- which isn't true. Hutcherson plays his African-Americanism as an angle in opposing civil rights, but blacks are not inherently opposed to civil rights for gays. I speak from experience because I am black. Mirror Ball

[edit] In the news again

Just making a note for other editors or myself when I have the time: Conservative pastor urges buying Microsoft stock to fight its gay rights efforts - http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/346431_antiochmsft08.html Note how this negates his previous quests to boycott Microsoft and get everyone to sell their shares, thus devaluing the stock. TechBear (talk) 17:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)