Talk:Kelly Flinn

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[edit] Red Flag

• During her deployment to Red Flag...

Surely she was not communist :-). Please disambiguate & add to Red flag (disambiguation). mikka (t) 18:55, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I hope I fixed. Please verify: It seems it is Operation Red Flag (not the movie, though). mikka (t) 19:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

It is not "Operation" Red Flag. There is not and never was such a thing. --Buckboard 21:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability and renaming

Flinn isn't notable except for her involvement in the controversy surrounding her actions at Minot AFB. Therefore, this article shouldn't be a biography, but instead should be renamed as "Kelly Flinn incident" or something like that and then merge the info from this article into that one. I'll leave this open for discussion for a month or so before taking action. CLA 21:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know - a case could definitely be made for notability aside from the incident, given the fact that she was the first female B-52 pilot and a published author. Videmus Omnia 22:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, that might be a valid point, except that I can't find anything at all on the web that has been written about her since her book was published. She appears to have completely dropped out of sight. CLA 03:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with renaming the article. She was notable first due to her achievement, then due to the scandal. Cleduc 18:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Nevertheless, I think that there can also be a separate article called something like "Kelly Flinn scandal" or Kelly Flinn incident." CLA 20:39, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

It would probably end up being merged here... Videmus Omnia 02:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't agree on that point. An article on the Kelly Flinn scandal would have a chance of becoming featured because there is enough information out there to write a complete article and it is no longer a current event. This article, however, stands very little chance of ever becoming FA eligible because, as far as I know, there hasn't been any information on the subject in secondary sources in several years. In fact, I may start and write the Kelly Flinn Scandal article myself sometimt in the future, but it may be awhile as you can see from my "to do" list on my userpage. CLA 02:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm - you may have a point. I recently re-read Proud To Be...by renaming, we could definitely draw in the impact on the careers of Joseph Ralston and Sheila Widnall. Objection withdrawn, and I'd definitely be willing to collaborate. Videmus Omnia 02:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Before I raised my objection for this article to exist as a bio, I had forgotten that she had published a book, which probably makes her notable enough to keep this as an article. I'm in the process of getting the Michael Brown Okinawa assault incident ready for another go at FAC review. If I had written that article as a bio of Michael Brown, it never would have had a chance at FA. But, by writing it about the event itself that makes Michael Brown notable, it can be complete. I would look foward to collaborating with you on an article about the incident that helped make this subject notable. If you decide to start the article using information from her book, let me know and I'll help add additional references through web searches. CLA 03:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'll dig the book back out and start flagging the facts. Videmus Omnia 03:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)