User talk:Kathryn NicDhàna/Archive 8

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Archive 8: Other things that happened November 22, 2006 - January 3, 2007

1 League of Copyeditors
2 Wikipedia:WikiProject Scotland
3 Republic of Ireland-United Kingdom border
4 Apology
5 "On the other hand, ignorance does not equal NPOV"
6 Samhain disambiguation
7 Wells
8 re: chicken soup
9 A True Church
10 Userboxes
11 Barnstar
12 Hi Kathryn
13 Archives
14 Irish Women
15 mt tabor
16 Troll

League of Copyeditors

I never got a chance to personally welcome you to the LoC. I've gotten to reading some of your past edits and I have no doubt at all that you are going to be a great addition to our group. Already you have been an incredible help to us and I really look forward to working with you in the future. Trusilver 06:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words, and thank you for starting the League! I look forward to future collaborations. --Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 06:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Scotland

Would you like to help me make a Scottish town/region/county a featured article?? If so, reply on my talk page! --SunStar Net 20:23, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

The article I'd like to get to featured status is Scottish Borders; it's a place I've been to twice, and I think it is deserving of a main page article. Slainte (is that cheers in Celtic??), --SunStar Net 20:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the article and see if I can be of use. Slàinte is colloquially translated as "Cheers"; the literal meaning in Gaelic/Gàidhlig is "Health/Strength/Wholeness". The Irish/Gaeilge version of word has the same meaning, however it is written with the accent mark (fada) slanted the other way: Sláinte --Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 20:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Republic of Ireland-United Kingdom border

Kathryn, seeing as you're a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland, would you be able to help me get Republic of Ireland-United Kingdom border as a featured article?? I'd really appreciate the help. --SunStar Net 00:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Apology

I want to apologize for putting that navigation box on the Gaelic Festival series without discussing it first! I totally agree that it was misleading, particularly placed at the top of the page. I hope I haven't ruined the chances for a (much smaller and less prominant) substitute, to be placed below the Gaelic festival box if you allow it -- I defer to your judgement:

←Yule

Wheel of the Year

Ostara→

Just so readers can go to the other neopagan festivals without having to search through the Wheel of the Year page. I hope it's minimalist enought to be more helpful than problematic... but I'd understand if you think otherwise. Thoughts? --gwc 07:05, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Cat. Thank you for your apology. I certainly accept and I do understand that you had all good intentions in making the changes you did.

As for adding a different Sabbats/Wheel template, I have three concerns:

1. I am primarily concerned that adding a template which directs readers to Wiccan/Neopagan festivals, which are based on other cultures than the Gaelic festivals, not only biases towards a Wiccan-leaning Neopagan interpretation of the Gaelic (and solar) festivals but may confuse readers who are interested in Gaelic culture, not in Wicca or Neopaganism.
2. Since the "Sabbats" merge, the Wheel of the Year article is a mess. I don't think we should be creating additional links to it, especially not template ones, unless and until it is given some major cleanup. I cleaned up an earlier version of it, but since the Sabbats merge, I don't even know where to start on it.
3. I think it would look odd to have two nav templates at the bottom of the page, though this is less of a concern than points 1 and 2.

I appreciate the desire to have readers be able to click through the Wiccan wheel. However, I'm not sure how to do that without re-introducing some of the problems we've worked so hard to fix in the Gaelic articles. --Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 07:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

It seems we are both named Kat. I guess Wikipedia will just have to wait, as always, until the solution that doesn't introduce more problems is found (possibly the "Germanic Festivals" template you mentioned on Bloodofox's talk page that you said you might collaborate with him on?). Ah, the merge was also unfortunately unilateral. Thank you, Bloodofox, Brenton.eccles, and Septegram for the damage control (instead of say the much less time consuming solution of reversion). --gwc 11:39, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

"On the other hand, ignorance does not equal NPOV"

Just a comment to say how strongly I agree! For your amusement, you might find [[1]] amusing. I have the misfortune to be a still-living inventor, and the Wikipedia geeks appear to want to wait until I am safely dead, and nobody remembers many of the things that I know now :-) Keep up the good work! Jpaulm 19:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks for your prompt answer! a) I never heard of that guideline - that's great news! and b) would I put such books and articles in the Talk for FBP or the talk for J. Paul Morrison? There are quite a lot, even if we exclude blogs... Thanks again! Jpaulm 22:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd add the cites to the talk page of the J. Paul Morrison article, as that's the article that needs help. --Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Kathryn, I'll get going on it. There are a number of references in Flow-based programming - I will add some more to my talk but I'm not sure how to tie them together... Jpaulm 20:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Me again - I've added a whole bunch to Talk:John_Paul_Morrison - frankly I don't know how many they want... Also, there are some in Flow-based programming, but I don't know how the two articles should be tied together... Diolch yn fawr (I know it's not Gaelic, but it is a Celtic language!) Jpaulm 00:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back from your Wikibreak! I've added a bunch of citations to Talk:John_Paul_Morrison - should someone move them to one of the articles? User:Ars Scriptor had offered to, but he now shows as having retired! The citations are not doing much good where they are - I'm not allowed to move them - and I don't know where they should go anyway! Someone suggested putting all the citations in one place, and then having a "See also" in the other, but they already cross-reference each other. I'm very confused! Jpaulm 02:09, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Samhain disambiguation

Thanks for making the disamb. There's one teensy problem: samhain is described as being celebrated by Gaelic peoles. this is no longer true, as the neo-pagan and wiccan communities celebrate it, and many of them (eg me) aren't Gaelic! So it's slightly misleading. Totnesmartin 22:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I thought about also mentioning Neopaganism, but didn't want to be too wordy. I'll go add it in :-) --Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 22:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Wells

A while back you mentioned wells/well dressing/etc at the Scottish noticeboard. I came across quite a long article from the 1882-1883 volume of the Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland called "'Holy Wells' in Scotland". Thought it might be of interest: downloadable from here. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Tapadh Leibh, Angus, I'll check it out. :-) --Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

re: chicken soup

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Thanks a lot! I don't have any chicken soup, but I've got Ramen, which is close enough. I appreciate the message. :)

Peace. - Che Nuevara 03:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

A True Church

I saw that you recommended A True Church for speedy deletion. It is back, but I also question it's notability and tagged it with {{nn}}. Just an FYI. --Fl e x (talk|contribs) 15:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes

Thanks for all of the information you provided for the Celtic Reconstructionist Paganism Article. I am really interested in it and I am wanting to look into it. I plan to get some books to read up on. What I am wanting to know is how do I use the two user boxes you have on your page, both about Celts/Celtics. Thanks a lot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tinkleheimer (talk • contribs) 01:11, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

Hi Tinkleheimer, here is the code for the CR box. The original was made by QuartierLatin1968, but I customized the text and graphic slightly. To put a box on your page, copy this code and then go into the edit view of your user page and paste the code in:

<div style="float: left; border:solid #D2B48C 1px; margin: 1px;"> {| cellspacing="0" style="width: 238px; background: #50C878;" | style="width: 45px; height: 45px; background: #50C878; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; color: white;" | '''[[Image:Triskele-Symbol1.png|40px]]''' | style="font-size: 8pt; padding: 4pt; line-height: 1.25em; color: white;" | This user '''[[Celtic Reconstructionist Paganism|swears by the Goddesses by whom her people swear]]'''. |}</div>

I don't know who made the Ancient Celts one, but here's the code:

<div style="float: left; border:solid #006600 2px; margin: 1px;"> {| cellspacing="0" style="width: 238px; background: #669966;" | style="width: 45px; height: 45px; background: #FFCC00; text-align: center; font-size: {{{5|{{{id-s|14}}}}}}pt; color: {{{id-fc|#FFCC00}}};" | '''[[Image:celtknot_x44.png|45px]]''' | style="font-size: {{{info-s|8}}}pt; padding: 4pt; line-height: 1.25em; color: {{{info-fc|FFCC00}}};" | This user is interested in the [[Celtic polytheism|ancient]] and [[Modern Celts|modern]] <span style="color:#FFFFFF">'''[[Celt|Celts]]'''</span>. |} </div>

Once you get used to looking at the code for these things, you can click on the edit view of a user page and copy the code from there. Slàinte! -- Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 02:16, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot :) Tinkleheimer 11:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you! - WeniWidiWiki 05:20, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Kathryn

You might or might not be interested in an as-yet-to-be created article called Glasgow Emancipation Society. It's an off-shoot of James McCune Smith. Sincerely, NinaEliza (talk • contribs • logs) 01:41, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Nina, I'll check it out. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 22:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Just to add here, NinaOdell and I have begun the article and we've dug up a lot of useful information, so if you're still interested the help would be much appreciated :). Mrmaroon25 00:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

And yes, I did just realize that NinaEliza is NinaOdell ... :P Mrmaroon25 00:24, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Irish Women

Thank you for your help. It's much better now. Kevlar67 22:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi. This image is a derivative work of every image in the composite. They all need to be identified for proper sourcing and checked for copyright/license status. Sorry to be a pain. Jkelly 23:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh. I thought since they were all images in use for a while on WP that it would be ok. I'll check out the derivative works link, but please bear with me while I figure this out. I may have questions. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 01:15, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

PS - I definitely have questions. The link had no info. :-/ ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 01:18, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Your guess as to what I was looking for was right; just a list of the originals. Credit to the original creator is an imperative for any that happen to be licensed CC-BY, CC-BY-SA or GFDL. Happy new year! Jkelly 02:43, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Hm, yeah, we shouldn't be using any "fair use" images in these collages at all, so it would definitely be best if you swapped the unfree image for a free one. Jkelly 19:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Will do! Thanks for your help! ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 19:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I found a freely licensed image of the President at Commons, in case it helps. Jkelly 19:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Currently folks are trying to agree on who gets to replace Robbo. That is, someone everyone agrees on, and of whom we also have an appropriately-licensed picture. (grumble.) I'll attend to it as soon as there's some sort of consensus. Hopefully that will be very soon now. Thanks for your help and patience. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 06:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

It could use real sourcing, but that should be fine to do whatever we want with. I don't know anything about the copyright terms on Irish stamps, by the way, and couldn't find it after a brief search. Jkelly 06:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Whoot! I'll swap her for Robbo then. Thanks so much for your help with this! ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 06:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

mt tabor

the tabor site needs current things that are not old u dont go to tabor so dont worry about it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.76.199.201 (talk) 04:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC).

You are quite right. I am old. I do not go to high school anymore. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 06:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Troll

No problem :D WeniWidiWiki 06:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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