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[edit] Etymology

Originally katorga was a rowing vessel, like a galley, where conditions were quite harsch. — Monedula 10:31, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I see this word (katergon) for a galley only in Russia-language sources. I've also seen a term "katergos/katergon" as applied to criminals and also in relation to hard labor. But google search gives me nothing convincing yet. mikka (t) 22:07, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Russian minister at katorga

Who was the Tsarist Minister sentenced to katorga by being chained to a wheelbarrow? Nobs 20:29, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What else do you know about him? Mikkalai 21:13, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
From memory it was in Gulag Archepelago in the Katorga chapter, I'll have to run upstairs to try and find it. I beleive it was in the 1890's. Nobs 21:31, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How many prisoners?

1830 : 8000,

1870 : 20.000,

1900 : 30.000

1921 : 150.000 (Soviet Gulag)

1937 : 1,19 Millions

1953 : 2,5 Millions (or more)


(Joel Kotek, Pierre Rigoulot:Das Jahrhundert der Lager, Propyläen 2001 (Le siècle des camps, Éditions Lattès 2000), ISBN 3549071434

--172.177.61.176 23:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Noteworthy katorga prisoners

You could add the Decembrists, at least initially. Prince Volkonsky for one was subject to forced labour in a mine near Chita for roughly the first two years of his exile; after that he was in an ordinary prison in Petro-Pavlovsk (Source: museum in the Volkonsky house in Irkutsk.)

Question: what was the Russian term for a katorga prisoner, by analogy to zek?

JamesWim 17:14, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Not that I am aware of: katorzhnik, katorzhanin are common adjectives. `'mikka 21:32, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Another question: there were no other famous katorzhniks besides Russians and Poles? Tsf (talk) 12:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)