Talk:Kathimerini
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Greece, an attempt to expand, improve and standardize the content and structure of articles related to Greece. | ||||||
| If you would like to participate, you can improve Kathimerini, or sign up and contribute in a wider array of articles like those on our to do list. If you have any questions, please consult the FAQ. | |||||||
| Stub | This article has been rated as Stub-Class on the quality scale. (comments) | ||||||
| Low | This article has been rated as a Low priority article | ||||||
|
|||||||
 |
This article is part of WikiProject Journalism, an attempt to better organize information in articles related to journalism. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. | |
| Stub | This article has been rated as Stub-Class on the quality scale. | |
there are no left-leaning journalist in this newspaper.
- Patent nonsense, but you get to have your say. Please sign your comments next time around. --Thorsen 10:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] edits by 87.101.51.84
Hello. I completely disagree with the direction your recent edits are taking the article. It is as if the article as it is is trying to "prove" a leftist orientation of Kathimerini, instead of being an encyclopedic article about it and that is in discord with the NPOV policy. For one thing, I do not agree that K has moved to the left. It is as right-wing as ever. For another, K is a big national newspaper that hosts a great diversity of columnists, op-editors and reporters. It is easy to find a few of them that can be labeled as left wingers, and it is just as easy (if not easier) to find hard-line right wingers too. The cases of Delastik and Papakonstantinou are (imho) notable enough as they are both high profile both at the paper and at their party. However they are not the ones that either own the paper or make its alignment decisions. They are not a sign that K has become left-wing, rather that it is large enough to be able to accommodate some left wingers. Anyhow, citing a December 2006 article to demonstrate a leftist shift is an example of recentism, something to be avoided in general, not to mention that the contents of a Russian report are irrelevant to the article about the paper that published an article about the report. --Michalis Famelis (talk) 15:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Leftist? Kathimerini has never been left, it is center right. Which is a good thing, the KKE cannot get their filthy commie propaganda out through Kathimerini.--NeroDrusus 22:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Delastik??? Wasn't he a columnist of eleytherotypia? I don't know if he is really a leftist, but I know he is Jewish and he spreading lies about the Greek Nationalist movement. Mitsos 17:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] This is not an article
Everything from the sentence ending with ...Cyprus. to the bottom should be deleted.
This text is a quick description of the newspaper, following a whole page of ramblings by some angry right-wing reader. The couple of citations added are simply references to the articles; they do not justify the personal opinions presented here. The reality is that Kathimerini decided to purge all right-wing populist remarks and become a well-respected conservative newspaper. But even adding that would be too much; it would require quite some research or an independent source to support that. I'd like to ask anyone interested in this article to focus first on adding some useful information (historic info for example) first and leave the political debate aside for a while.
I'll leave this tag on for a few days in case anyone comes up with real evidence of a communist plot to take over the greek nation's #1 conservative newspaper... --Treiskaitetarto 04:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC) PS: The fact that one of its writers is Jewish doesn't count by the way
- All I read in the previous version was the remark that Kathimerini had shifted to the left of the political spectrum (the latter being quite different from "purging populism", except in the minds of fevered left-wingers).. In my opinion, it is a tenable position. Having said that, I agree with you that such a comment should be supported by third-party observations, rather than "examples" from the paper itself, per WP:NOR. Even so, it hardly makes it an "angry right-winger rant" or a suggestion that "there is a communist plot to take over Kathimerini". You don't need to use strawman arguments to support otherwise justified edits. 87.243.69.164 13:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Actually it'd be nice to have a source even for the claim "it is traditionally perceived as a conservative media flagship"... is there a good source of any sort on its political leanings we can cite? --Delirium 13:07, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- well worldpress.org uses the label (conservative) next to kathimerini in this article:
- http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/1103.cfm
- I think it should be considered reliable enough --Treiskaitetarto 13:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
