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[edit] F4U Corsair

Your change of the William Green book is well-meaning, but they are really two different books: Green, William. Famous Fighters of the Second World War. New York: Doubleday & Company, 1975. ISBN 0-38512-395-7. is actually the book that I referenced. It is your choice of what to do to change this. Also, you really need to cite page numbers and the "their" landing gear seems to be a sticking point to you?! :} Bzuk 10:21 4 March 2007 (UTC).

Actually, when I first noticed that the references I had added had been changed, I guessed some automated process had tried to fill in the ISBN, which I had left out. I looked at the book I own, found there was an ISBN, and I put it back in. It finally occured to me to look at the history, and I saw it was a person who had made the change. Since I added the references, I'd prefer they point to the book I was actually referencing. It's no big deal, of course, since Green likely copied it all verbatim from one version to the next, the original 1961 copyright being in his name, not that of the publishers. I will add the page number, per your suggestion. If you feel the "Famous" version is easier to find at libraries, you can change the references. As for "their," I was trying to clue the reader that other solutions than the bent wing might have existed (the "their" referring to the solution chosen by the Corsair's designers). The Grumman team who developed the Hellcat around the same engine managed to get a rearward retracting main gear in a straight wing. Regards, Karl Kleimenhagen 20:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it's only an editor's preference as to the wording used, now that you've explained the reasoning, I am perfectly happy to return it to "their"; I just thought of it as an awkward phrase as it really wasn't their landing gear, it was the Corsair's, athough it may have been "their" design. As to the William Green references, I find the later source more complete. However, referencing the page number from either text, will be the solution. I appreciate you taking the time to contact me. I have been a librarian for over 30 years, and my most common contributions?! to Wikipedia is in providing accurate bibliographical notations. Bzuk 07:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Sikorsky and the Corsair

Karl, I noticed that Igor Sikorsky was listed in the design team but I didn't question it at the time. Now that you have brought it to my attention, let me do some research. I believe that Rex Biesel led a team of engineers including project engineer Frank Albright, aerodynamics engineer Paul Baker and propulsion engineer James Shoemaker. I can't say for certain that Igor Sikorsky was not involved, but it does not appear likely. I will have to consult some of my reference sources and get back to you. Bzuk 12:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] English Electric Lightning references

Copyedit from my "talk page": "A book by Winchester is listed in the References section of this article; however, no footnotes tie to this work. It seems the book would be better put in the Further Reading section. Changes were recently made to the names given to the Lightning models, such as converting P.1A to P1A. Was this change in nomenclature made during the period the Lightning was in operations? If not, it seems to me the original naming would be more appropriate. Certainly, the few references I've seen to this airplane use the original names. Karl Kleimenhagen 23:46, 30 July 2007 (UTC)"

Hi Karl, thanks for writing. As for the Winchester book, when I wrote various parts of the article, I was using this book as a primary reference source. Although there are no citations from this book, rest assured, it was used as a reference source. In terms of the RAF nomenclature, the most current style is the one that is now being prescribed for aircraft types even as far back as the Second World War, namely the Spitfire Mk V and Avro Lancaster Mk X. Note there are now no use of period "breaks" in identifying RAF variants. I changed the Lightning variants only after consulting with the RAF Museum and various contemporary sources. FWIW Bzuk 01:03, 31 July 2007 (UTC).