Talk:Karen Horney

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What about alienation from the self and the search for glory? These are important concepts in Horney's theory.

Your site posits two different birth days in September and two different decades for Karen Horney's birth. Which is it?

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Following the sourcing and citations, the notices within this article have been removed. As to an adaquate rating of this article; it seems to be around the "B" mark in terms of quality. In terms of importance; would "Mid" would prove adaquate considering proliferation and knowledge through the psychiatric community? -- D-Katana 14:49 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plagiarism

Much of the page seems to be taken verbatim from [1].

[edit] prevectualious

What does this mean? I couldn't find it in 2 online dictionaries and a Google search only threw up this page and another on Karen Horney with the same text. Dajanes 20:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Nice catch; I searched the history of the article and found that it was added recently, along with some other rubbish, which has now been reverted. John Vandenberg 22:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Vandalism

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[edit] Vandalism

Someones vandalised this page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.229.130.21 (talk) 10:43, 21 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] The need to restrict life practices

It's very unlikely that Horney intended this trend to be classed with the Aggressive type. My sense of Horney's theory is that this need goes best with the Compliant type. C.G. Boree, R. Niolon, and J. Feist (pg. 165) class it that way.

Ptypes 17:49, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

But I doubt that it would be apart of "moving towards people", as this point describes what is elsewhere in personality theory called "introversion". Introversion is by definition, "withdrawal", and basically a kind of rejection of people before they reject you, and not "compliance". If anything, I would say that #3 would be "away" (withdrawal) and 9 and 10 would be "against", (aggression, because these traits, though passive, lead to aggressive behavior when someone crosses the person's boundaries). 4 and 5 would be "extroversion" in terms of surface behavior ("attacking"), and 6, 7, and 8 would be extroversion in terms of its driving motivations (what one needs from others, rather than what one does to others). So "against" (in a more active sense) would fit for 4 and 5, but not directly for 6, 7 and 8. So really, 1 and 2 can be seen as "passive moving towards" (compliance), 3 as "active moving away or against" (withdrawal), 4 and 5 as "active moving towards/against" (aggression), 6, 7 and 8 as "passive moving towards/against" (the driving motives of aggression), and 9 and 10 as "passive moving away or against". (passive aggression).
Still, what matters here is what Horney said in the book. I haven't read it, so I don't know. I found it strange that #3 would initially be apart of the "Against" category, but eventually end up in the "Compliance" coping strategy corresponding to "Towards". You have made it consistent, but then if there is question about whether 3 was apart of against or towards, then it does warrant looking into, since it really doesn't seem like 3 is compliance or "towards" and not withdrawal or "away".Eric B 21:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, I read the three links, and the first one actually has #3 in both "compliance" and "withdrawal". I don't know if that is a typo, or if these are all interpretations of Horney. He also compares it with Adler and the four temperaments of Galen, but the coping strategies would more match the factors of the temperaments, and not the temperaments themselves. Melancholy (Avoiding)={3}+{9, 10}; Choleric (ruling/Dominant)={4, 5}+{6, 7, 8}+{9, 10}; Phlegmatic (Getting/Leaning)={3}+{1, 2} and Sanguine (Adler "Socially Useful", but omitted in the comparison)={1, 2}+{6, 7, 8}.Eric B 21:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I overlooked your responses. As far as I know, Horney never actulaly listed the 10 needs by category. But she mentioned them in her discussions of the 3 "movements," or types. These other psychologists and authors are making their own lists based on her texts. I believe that she does mention #3 both in connection with "moving toward" and "moving away from." I've only seen one article on the web by a professor of psychology that lists #3 with the "moving against," and I doubt that there's any textual basis for it. I don't think that this situation calls for basing the categoration of Horney's needs on our own theories, though. Ptypes 16:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Are you serious?

Are you for real? She was into Psychosexual development with that name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.88.49.41 (talk) 22:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)