Talk:Julius Martov

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[edit] Dustbin of History story

Martov became politically marginalised, best exempified by Trotsky's comment to him as he left a meeting of the council of Soviets in disgust at the way in which the Bolsheviks had seized political power, "go to where you belong, the dustbin of history". Martov silently walked away without looking back. He paused at the exit seeing a young Bolshevik worker wearing a black shirt with a broad leather belt, standing in the shadow of the portico. The young man turned on Martov with unconcealed bitterness: 'And we amongst ourselves had thought, Martov would at least will remain with us.' Martov stopped and with a characteristic movement tossed up his head to emphasisie his reply: 'One day you will understand the crime in which you are taking part,'. Waving his hand wearily he left the hall.

This is a very nice story I'm sure, and is written very poetically, but is there any factual evidence to back it it up? --Horses In The Sky 10:49, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

It reads like a paraphrase of one part of Nikolai Sukhanov's classic account of the Second Soviet Congress in his 7 volume history of the Russian revolution. I can look it up tonight. What's worse, the whole article is riddled with omissions and outright factual errors and needs to be rewritten. One of these days, I'll get to it.
Of course, the whole Menshevik article needs to be rewritten as well, not to mention the fact that we don't have anything on Sukhanov, Boris Bogdanov, or other Menshevik leaders of the February Revolution. And then there are all the other players that will need to be added at some point... Ahasuerus 18:12, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Istanbul

The city's name was Istanbul at the time, it was not Constantinople.

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You appear to have your facts wrong, from the page Constantinople#Names it says and I quote, "Constantinople was officially renamed İstanbul by the Republic of Turkey on March 28, 1930." and if you don't believe that look here [1], where it says "1930: Constantinople changes its name officially into Istanbul.", granted it also says "Istanbul had been the popular name of the city for 5 centuries already." but officially it remained Constantinople until 1930 and seeing as Martov was born in 1873 this should be the name used. Horses In The Sky talk contributions

[edit] Trotsky's Affiliation

Leon Trotsky too was a member of the Menshevik faction for a brief period but soon broke with them.

I've left this in the article, but it's not substantially correct. Trostky was, at least nominally, a Menshevik from the split in 1903 til April 1917, though he didn't always follow the group in reality. I don't know whether it is best to remove this statement altogether, as it is not pertinent to the article, or reword it to make it clearer. Ephemera (talk) 19:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)