Talk:Julia (1984)

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Contents 1 Too much content? 2 Copy-editing 3 Seven-year itch? 4 Room 101

[edit] Too much content?

This section reads more like a summary of Julia and Winston's relationship and their rebellion against the Party. Recommend revision.

It also seems to be more about Winston's feelings for Julia, rather than an article about Julia herself. Understandable, in an article about a character who is shrouded in mystery throughout the novel (both before and after she has relations with Winston, due to the fact that the Party makes it impossible for either of them to know very much about each other) but none the less... --Dark Green 20:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copy-editing

"When O'Brien tests their willingness to do whatever the Brotherhood asks, Julia shouts "No!" when he asks whether she and Winston prepared to separate and never see each other again." This sentence is incoherent. Clayton 04-December-2006 22:49

[edit] Seven-year itch?

Perhaps overkill to complain about this, but...

Article says:

O'Brien is really a faithful Party member, a torturer who brainwashes those who have gone astray (in order to "make them perfect" before they are executed). He reveals to Winston that he had actually been under surveillance for as much as seven years. The reader never knows if the Thought Police had previously detected Julia's thoughtcriminal tendencies as well. If not, it was her love for Winston that doomed her.

Actually, it's never clear how much of what O'Brien says is lies or doublethink. He may have merely claimed to have been watching Smith for years, just to impress Smith with the Party's omniscience, and in fact only watched him since he gave O'B. a funny look at the end of a Two-Minutes Hate in early April 1984.

[edit] Room 101

Isn't she lobotomized? Earlier in the novel she talks about how the one thing she will always have to herself, beyond the reach of the Party, is her own mind, and when Winston sees her at the end, she has a scar across her forehead. If no one contests, I think I'll add this in. Kuralyov (talk) 05:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe not quite. Perhaps they removed a part of her brain, but a lobotomy is through the eye socket. I'd say brain surgery if I were you.

DarkestMoonlight (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)