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Is Jubaland coextensive with Jubbada Dhexe and/or Jubbada Hoose and/or Southwestern Somalia? -- Gyrofrog (talk) 07:10, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I think it included both of the present-day Jubbadas. One would want some old maps to doublecheck the extent. It would be handy to scan one of the map stamps as evidence... Stan 19:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Jubaland was everything west of the Juba River which is most of Gedo, Middle Juba, and Lower Juba regions. Postage stamp with map added. Compare to Image:Somalia_pol02.jpg. AjaxSmack 20:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Independence 2 Population 3 Split Juba Valley Alliance from Jubaland 4 Map 5 What happened to this page since around New Years 2006?

[edit] Independence

Jubaland declared its independence from Somalia in 1998

Is this true? I know it was de-facto independent but I thought it never declared independence, just like Puntland but in contrast to Somaliland. AndrewRT - Talk 15:01, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. It was autonomous and operating "independently," but the local administration always considered rejoining Somalia once it reconstituted itself.

Jubaland- also Jubbaland. Following the secession of Puntland from Somalia in July of 1998, several regional leaders began preparing for independence. Under Mohamed Said Hersi, known as "General Morgan", the southern port of Kismayo was declared the capital of an independent Jubaland on September 3, 1998. Like Puntland's leadership, Said Hersi has avowed that Jubaland will rejoin a united Somalia.--Footnotes to History

--Petercorless 04:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population

The article states that Jubaland had a population of 12,000 in 1926, now I've seen out-of-date statistics before, but this is ridiculous, lol. Is there no more up-to-date estimates? --Hibernian 05:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Split Juba Valley Alliance from Jubaland

I am trying to distinguish between "Jubaland" the geographic and political area, from the Juba Valley Alliance, which is now a separate document. In actuality, it was not the JVA, but the SPM who declared Jubaland autonomous. The JVA has been rather staunchly "federalist" in leaning for years. --Petercorless 07:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map

I created a map for the area, however I did not have a breakdown/division of the contested provinces of Gedo and Middle Juba regions (potentially also claimed by Southwestern Somalia), so put them entirely within "Jubaland" even though they might not be entirely claimed by Jubaland. --Petercorless 11:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What happened to this page since around New Years 2006?

Bring some stuff back. This article is pathetic. Where did all that information go? For instance, the stamps mentioned above; did they delete themselves.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.250.225 (talk) 01:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I split Jubaland (the 1998-1999 state) from Trans-Juba (the colonial territory) --Ingoman 05:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

That was a content fork and there was a deletion of significant material. Jubaland has a much larger significance than just the late 1990s. And Trans-Juba normally only refers to the Italian colonial era. I have tried to restore it without undoing any subsequent edits and the two have been merged. The article still needs a lot of work and some indecipherable material is in there "between the arrows" (<!-- like these -->) that someone can deal with. — AjaxSmack 00:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow! Someone actually listened! I think I even meant New Years 2007, but you guys understood anyway! Good job. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.210.163 (talk) 01:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)