Talk:Juan Sebastián Elcano (Spanish ship)

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[edit] Elcano vs. de Elcano

Can anyone explain why, in the article, the schooner is referred to sometimes as the "Elcano" and sometimes as the "de Elcano"? When the schooner visited Norfolk, VA, many years ago it was always referred to as the "Juan Sebastian de Elcano." cwb 70.161.208.216 13:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The ship is named after a person. The 'de' exists because People, especially nobility, were often referred to as where they were from. There are two locations called Elcano (one in Guipuzcoa and one in Navarro), so somewhere along the lines of his family, someone could have been from there. It is more likely, however, that after he gained recognition for circumnavigating the worlds and the King granted him a coat of arms, the 'de' was added as a form of prestige. It's kind of like "Mary, Queen of Scotts". 'De' can mean of, or from, or belonging to. It is also used to designate a relationship, like wife of, or widow of.... Using de in a name isn't as common as it used to be in the past. Nevermind, this person is one and the same. The ship, according to the web-site of the Spanish Armada, does have the 'de' in her name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teresasuarez (talk • contribs) 16:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moving WP:OR to talk

Depositing this seemingly WP:OR material here.

The oil painting of El Cano was done by famed naval artist, Gerard Richardson, in 1952 and hangs in the Autry Family Art Collection. Photo of the oil is courtesy of H. Allen Autry, Sr. The artist Gerard Richardson also did the large oil of Heavenly Mist which hung in the John Kennedy White House.

If sources are found and cited, please insert material relevant to Juan Sebastián Elcano back to the article. Toddstreat1 20:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)