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[edit] Notability of Study Guides and Strategies

A tag has been placed on Study Guides and Strategies requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. LittleOldMe (talk) 13:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] question

...are you Joe Landsberger? - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am Joe Landsberger. Can also be contacted through my website. I am a little clumsy at wikipedia. If you need more validity about my website, it has a Google ranking of 7 of 10, and 1 on MSN.Josfl (talk) 02:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

See WP:COI and WP:Business FAQ. Google hits are based on relevance, not Wikipedia's notability criteria. Sparknotes is notable because it is a significant part of Barnes & Noble. Cliffnotes is ubiquitous; I can't see how you could question its notability. Your website, on the other hand, is not notable. In addition, your submission had no 3rd party nontrivial coverage of the site, and I likewise find none. If you have verifiable, reliable sources independent of you which provide such coverage, please let me know. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Where to start? MERLOT-Teacher Education: Average Rating Overall - 4.33 (highest rating possible = 5); the Scout Report, The Educational Society for Resource Management, Busy Educator Award, Best of Education on the Web 2000--Los Angeles Educational Project, Site of the Week: College of Engineering--University of Wisconsin/Madison, Internet Resource of the Month--The Learning Center Newsletter, USAToday Hot Site, USAToday Best Best for EducatorsGood Housekeeping's "Site of the Day", International Association of Web Masters and Designers "2001-2002 Golden Web Award, Wall Street Executive Library Feature Site, Bobby Approved, Kathy Schrock's Guide for Educators "Sites of the School Days" Site 17, Access Washington "Just for Kids" recommended site by Washington State Department of Information Services, Rapid City Area Schools Tip of the Week, AnswerPoint.org--Featured site, National Council of Teachers of English, Maryland Public Television Top Ten Internet Sites for Families, Education World Review "A" CONTENT--"B" AESTHETICS--"A" ORGANIZATION--"A" REVIEW, ACCESS Magazine, Sunday STAR-TRIBUNE, the "A" list, StudentAffairs.com Site of the month, approved for all ages by "SafeSurf", EditAvenue Writing Tips Award, American Libary Association 10 Top Internet Sites for Families, Best of the Web:University of North Carolina School of Education (...the most innovative and successful practices).

You wouldn't be able to "see" it but the guides have been donated for use on One Laptop per Child Program servers. Also check out Stumbleupon reviews.

Want more?Josfl (talk) 15:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I forgot to add the most recent review 12/31/08 from Curriki http://www.curriki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Coll_studyguides/StudyGuidesandStrategies "exemplary" "3"

I might add that I would have appreciated that you not make accusations "your website, on the other hand, is not notable" and instead request information on notability. Josfl (talk) 16:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Forgive me if I seem to not be assuming good faith. However, based on my research, limited as it is, I could not determine notability in the same way as the other sites you mentioned. I LOVE to be proven wrong, so please do so! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
We need to have verifiable, reliable sources. Hyperlinks or bibliographic information per WP:CITE will suffice. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

So: how many do you want? How many did Sparknotes and Cliffnotes provide? Did you make the same assumptions for them? My contention is that a not-for-profit resource is judged by different criteria than a commercial one.Josfl (talk) 16:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Notability for companies and organizations remains the same. Read the other two articles and see what claims were made that suggest notability, and the types of sources that were used. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I still would like an answer from you for my question since the issue revolves around your objection and criteria. How many do you want? The link did not provide a quantity which would be helpful. Josfl (talk) 16:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The criteria simply ask for multiple nontrivial references from reliable and verifiable sources. If more is requested by other editors, or if others still feel the article does not establish notability, then they can use the articles for deletion procedure, wherein a community consensus will be sought, providing more input from the Wikipedia community as to whether the article should stay and be improved, or be deleted. Even if deletion after that process occurs, there is the deletion review process, if you wish to press the issue. Keep in mind, though, that your conflict of interest and use of your account to serve a single agenda will be constantly pointed out, so it will be an uphill battle all the way. If you can find at least two of your references online, let me see them, and if they look like they'll pass initial overview, I'll support the article as best I can; while you work on getting the other references available. I would say that all of the ones you listed are relevant; an actual article talking about the website in a non-trivial way would be awesome. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Acree, J. (May 28, 2008). Material Detail. In MERLOT Material Educational Resource for Learning and Online Teaching. Retrieved June 4, 2008, from http://www.merlot.org/merlot/viewMaterial.htm?id=87717

NA. (December 31, 2007). Curriki Study Guides and Strategies. In Curriki Web Home. Retrieved June 4, 2008, from http://www..http://www.curriki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Coll_studyguides/StudyGuidesandStrategies?bc=&showMeta=true

NA. (June 30, 2004). Education World:: Site Reviews:: Study Guides and Strategies. In Education World, The Educator's Best Friend. Retrieved June 4, 2008, from http://www.education-world.com/awards/past/2001/r0301-16.shtmlJosfl (talk) 17:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)