Talk:Jose Rodriguez (intelligence)

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[edit] Overall quality of the article

Bio pages should be written more in the style of encyclopedia articles, not faux-journalism (ie, use of jargon like "chief spy". I'm in the process of clean up, and if anyone wishes to contribute to this Talk please sign your posts! It's real easy: just append ~~~~ at the end of your comment. The name and date/time stamp is done automatically. Thanks. Alcarillo 16:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

In going through this mess, I've been cutting blatantly speculative statements like: military attache used as "funnel for money, arms, and intelligence"; unattributed comments about the possibily of Rodriguez's "friend" may have been a CIA asset. We're not trying to win "indy journalism" awards here, people. Just stick to the facts. Alcarillo 16:41, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Speaking of "indy journalism", I even found the earlier text repurposed here. More to my point about the quality of the article and the agenda of whomever started it.Alcarillo
It's bare-boned at the moment, but I believe most of the information is factual and verifiable. Should anyone wish to expand on the information presented here, please include info relevant to the article (and not rhetoric regarding CIA policy in Latin America, gross speculation and investigative-style reportage) as well as a citation to back it up. Note that I've tagged a couple of items as needing factual support. Others, like this supposed link between Rodriguez's appointment and Kissinger's resignation from the 9/11 Commission, I removed.Alcarillo 17:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Educational Background

Has anyone been able to find out where Rodriguez was educated, and if so, could they append the entry with such information? I think every good bio-entry has at least a modicum of information on the person's earned degrees and area of study. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.98.15 (talk) 19:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Several questionable sources have reported he is originally from Puerto Rico. I'm not sure we can verify this - the CIA usually makes it pretty difficult to find biographical info on current and former employees. I'll have a closer look in the near future.--Happysomeone (talk) 21:51, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Verifiable Sources

In trying to dig up some more biographical data on Rodriguez, I came upon this | jem of an article. It seems like whomever wrote the entry on Rodriguez was taking cues from it. I'll put it in as an external link, but it really shouldn't be used here as a source of information. Alcarillo 17:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Presumed D/NCS

I would like to remind you all that because the CIA does not publish the name of the D/NCS, we cannot produce verifiable proof that Rodriguez is still in the post. --RaiderAspect 02:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia name-dropped in the news today.

Thought it might be of interest to the editors here; Wikipedia users even created an entry about him last year, although the page contains inaccuracies Tarc 17:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

-- That sounds ridiculous. Did anyone else see any errors? I think that they just threw that in there to take up space - they just figured that it sounded plausible because of their own bias against Wikipedia.

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Jose A. Rodriguez, Jr. is the Director of the National Clandestine Service (D/NCS) of the United States Central Intelligence Agency. He was the last to serve as the Agency's Deputy Director for Operations (DDO) before that position was upgraded to D/NCS in December 2004.

I just heard a report which confused me; then, that paragraph confused me further,...

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[edit] CIA Torture Tapes scandal

Several news sources yesterday identified Mr. Rodriguez as the CIA administrator who ordered the destruction of video tapes which recorded CIA employees using "aggressive" interrogation methods in 2002. They were allegedly destroyed in November 2005. Their existence and destruction was acknowledged by Director Michael Hayden. The subjects of the interrogations are allegedly members of al-Qaida, one of who has been identified as Abu Zubaydah. The destruction of these tapes could constitute obstruction of justice, since the CIA was ordered by the 9/11 Commission and a Federal judge in the Moussaoui case to release such media for evidence. [[1]]

An entry should be added to the article in the next day or two based on these developments.Happysomeone (talk) 22:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

This chapter in Mr. Rodriguez's career looks set to develop further in the public sphere & is clogging up the introduction. I'll be moving this down into the body of the article under a subheader "The CIA Torture Tapes scandal". Seems a bit POV, though. Anyone got a better idea? --Happysomeone (talk) 18:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)