Talk:José Bono Martínez

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Fake agression? It's was caught on video, everybody could see it. Also, I don't think a link to Libertad Digital is very apropiate, as LD is one of the most right-wing news site in Spain, and not impartial. --Pezezin 17:51, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


Everybody could see it?? I thought that honour was exclusively reserved to actual Minister of Interior Mr Rubalcaba, being the only person who assured to have seen it "with his own eyes" (without apporting any simple proof, of course), what is really a true prodigy considering he even WASN'T PRESENT in the place nor the moment of the facts... XD

Don't make me laugh, pal. It has been JURIDICALLY PROVEN not only the illegality of the detentions of the Popular Party militants, but also the prevarication of the police involved in those detentions and the falsification of public document in order them to being made. So we're talking with basis (juridical basis) when we say that they were FAKE AGRESSIONS, as well as ILLEGAL DETENTIONS by the Socialist Government. You might don't like LibertadDigital.com, but the information given by them is based in legal and contrastable data. Maybe your concept of "impartiality" is to hide any information that can hurt the Socialist Government. --Lion 12:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


Lion, El anterior perfil de Bono era demasiado parcial - la mitad del artículo trataba las dos polémicas (casi nada sobre sus puestos anteriores, por ejemplo, ni tampoco otros sucesos cuando era ministro), y estaba escrito casi como si fuera una columna de opinión. No todos coinciden en que la agresión fuera falsa. Leyendo el texto como estaba, uno llegaba a creer que Bono fingió la agresión, que es una posición que tú sostienes, desde luego eso no está probado, digas lo que digas. De todas maneras él solo no causó las detenciones. Aunque la detención de los militantes no estuviera justificada, recuerda que la página se trata de Bono, y que la policía o incluso su gobierno actuara mal es una cosa, pero querer culparle a él de las acciones de la policía es otra, y eso aquí no encaja. Mena Aguado no se limitó solo a coincidir con Bono (si es que Bono discrepaba con Zapatero hasta ese punto): advirtió de la intervención del ejército cuando no debía hacerlo. Si la reforma del estatuto no se ajusta a Derecho o a la Constitución, pues es antes que nada un asunto para el Tribunal Constitucional. Hay mucho que contar respecto a Bono. Yo propongo que aquí en lugar de este párrafo que tenemos, se redacte una traducción exacta de la versión en castellano, que no está mal. --Propontelo 03:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)