Talk:José Bonaparte

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[edit] Surname

This old man is not related to the 19th century French emperors, is he? Anyone who know what he got his surname from? Did he take it himself, did one of his parents, or any earlier ancestor?

2007-01-29 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

The Omni article says he's descended from an Italian sailor, which at least places a relatively recent ancestor on Europe. The name suggests he can can probably trace a lineage to France, but that doesn't mean he's related to the little general. Particuarly since there's only about 5 generations of wiggle room there. | Pat 14:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Have you any idea of how many “Nelsons” there are in the world who are not related to the admiral? Furthermore, Bonaparte is a name of Italian origin. Until the French Revolution it was usually spelled “Buonaparte” which is used as an alternative spelling today.

2007-04-10 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

[edit] Is he a Ph.D.?

I added the {{fact}} tag because I can't verify he has a Ph.D., and the Omni article implies he doesn't because it states he lacks formal training. It's not particularly controversial or libelous, so I left it in. | Pat 14:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Does a honoris causa count? I found a references that says he got a honorary doctorate degree from the Universidad Nacional de Tucumán in 1974 [1]. --Mariano(t/c) 15:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. Yes, honorary degrees are actually real degrees, though they waive the normal requirements. They just don't get as much respect, sometimes (not in Bonaparte's case, obviously). Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Academic titles it shouldn't be mentioned in the first sentence. Probably under an "Awards" section, per the default outline at Template:Biography. The article you found also seems to have a lot of information on his education and early life; unfortunately, my Spanish is dismal enough that I'd probably mangle it if I tried to include the information. Could you add it to the article? | Pat 16:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! | Pat 12:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taxionomy

Does he not use synapomorphies? The first time I heard of him was in Robert Bakker’s “The Dinosaur Heresies” (1986). In it he explained how he and Peter Galton come to the conclusion that the dinosaurs are a natural grouping using synapomorphy. At about the same time José constructed a dinosaurian family three independently of them. Yet it was almost identical to Robert’s and Peter’s. How did he arrive to the basically same conclusion if he used other methods?

2007-04-13 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.233.151.160 (talk) 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC).