Talk:Joi Ito

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An individual covered by or significantly related to this article, Joi Ito, has edited Wikipedia as Joi (talk · contribs)

This article was nominated for deletion on 20 June 2005. The result of the discussion was Keep.

Isn't saying "attempted, again, to educate himself" rather rude to the obviously intelligent man? Is there a better way to say this?

Partner vs Wife

Actually, Mizuka and I are not married yet so we are "partners" but not spouses... yet. --Joi 19:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

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"Ito is Timothy Leary's godson." There is no mention of a godson on the Timothy Leary article. ;-) Reference needed! (Yosofun 07:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC))

It was actually in older versions. Someone deleted it. For instance: [1] - I think someone doesn't like this fact. The original simple "Ito is Timothy Leary's godson" was replaced by some weird longer "Ito claims" comment. Not that it's not true, but... ;-) Anyway, I don't really feel like bickering over this sort of detail, but it is slightly annoying. If you need references, I think I can dig up letters or something from Tim with a reference. --Joi 14:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Here's a reference: http://www.leary.com/joiito/ -- Joi 00:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Editing my own article 1.1 Cleanup? 1.2 References 1.3 Rupture

[edit] Editing my own article

I've been talking to some of the admins in the IRC channel and it is my understanding that I can edit my own article to clean up formating, grammar, etc. so I may do this from time to time. Although, I would rather have someone else do it. ;-P --Joi 14:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I looked again at the article and thought about cleaning it up, but realized that it would introduce bias so decided against it. --Joi 02:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I changed my mind. I'm not going to edit my own article. Also, if you're a close friend or family, please do not edit my article. Personally, I think articles on the long tail like mine are kind of between a rock and a hard place where probably only the people who have a conflict are really interested in doing anything about the article. I suppose that's a lack of notability in a sense.

But I think there is probably a chunk of articles like mine that are probably notable enough to be worthy, but not notable enough to get attention from normal people...

Anyway, if it's OK with everyone, I'll post suggestions here and if anyone feels like adding them to the article or making the changes, please do so at your convenience. --Joi 12:47, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, the suggestions I will make will primarily be for the purpose of linking this article to other notable articles I find on Wikipedia to increase context and to provide references for unreferenced assertions. --Joi 12:50, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup?

How do I get rid of this:

This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Please improve this article if you can. (September 2007)

?? --Joi 15:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I have tried to organise the material into sections. I think the main areas requiring attention are the long lead section, which is a list of posts rather than a succinct statement, and the presence of too many one line statements beginning Ito this... and Ito that..., which needed to be converted into joined up prose. William Avery 13:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! on my user page, User:Jacoplane said he'd give it a crack here: User:Jacoplane/Temp. All of this sudden attention is making me blush. ;-) -- Joi 13:26, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, just keep editing the article here, I'll incorporate the good changes into my version and finally merge it back. It's going to take a while since this article needs a lot of work. JACOPLANE • 2007-09-28 13:31

The sections helped a great deal, William Avery. Also a good third party source exists in Finland that could replace a string of external links in the lead so that is now in place (I removed the cleanup tag for now). -Susanlesch 13:59, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Rated Start (high start!) but there are quite a few good sources here. This could be a B class biography quite soon if not now I think. -Susanlesch 14:10, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Joi: You're not dead are you? I removed Kyoto as being your place of death... --Zeraien 17:36, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

Don't want to add things directly to my page, but if someone could review the following references and add them to my article if it makes sense, that would be great. Thanks. -- Joi 00:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The "Cyber-Elite" business is from "Time digital" October 1997 p.57 -- Joi 00:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Timothy Leary calls me his godson in this video. [2] -- Joi 00:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rupture

I invested in and joined the board of Rupture founded by Shawn Fanning - Joi (talk) 14:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)