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[edit] Research Notes to help build new article

  • 2000 - Johnny Vegas Gameshow
    • Need to know more about what was involved with this.

(saving cos I'm watching telly, more to come...) --bodnotbod 22:10, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Come on Come on I can't wait all year! :-) (Johnnybriggs 07:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)).

It was just a pilot, shown on BBC Choice (as was).

[edit] Cricket & Priesthood

I doubt this very much but I'd like to see a reference.

Johnny was a keen cricketer in his youth. He played for St. Helens c.c and England, alongside the local legend Steve Harmison.

    • It just isn't true. As Michael Pennington, he may well have played cricket in his youth, but certainly not for England, nor yet with Steve Harmison (who is from the north east of England, nowhere near St Helens). And of course, neither is it possible in Britain to train to be a Catholic priest at the age of 11.
    • If these are just random unsubstantiated claims, then they ought to go. However, it's just possible that they are claims that Johnny Vegas - as distinct from Michael Pennington - has made about his early life. If so, then I guess they should stay - but with evidence, and introduced along the lines of "Vegas claims that ..."AndyofKent 11:02, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Just Googled the cricket allegation. Unsupported, therefore, it goes. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 18:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Have found source for training for priesthood. Not cast-iron, but better than nothing. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 18:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Before removing info as unnotable...

please discuss. Cheers. 80.195.89.127 16:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I moved the whole Koptalk section to Talk as not meeting WP:NOTE and WP:RS. Wikianon 01:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Support of Koptalk.com

Vegas courted controversy in September 2007 when it was announced by Koptalk, a Liverpool website that has previously come under fire for being less than ethical in its dealings, that Vegas had 'defended' them. Vegas is heard to say in an MP3 podcast released through the Koptalk website: "Hi, I'm Johnny Vegas and you're listening to Koptalk with Dunk and his monkey Steve. And all you other Liverpool sites, just stop embarrassing yourselves... alright?!" It is unclear whether Vegas knew of Koptalk's history. [1]

[edit] Johnny Vegas is not Dead

Someone keeps editing the article to say that Vegas is dead. He is not dead! Ummagumma23 23:10 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What happened?

I just wanted to add some information about his university and schooling, and I find I can't "EDIT" the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.155.71 (talk) 22:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

This page has been semi-protected, because of a recent spate of vandalism. If you want to edit it you must first create an account, which is a fairly easy process. Regards, King of the North East (T/C) 23:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appearances

He also appeared on Gordon Ramsay's The F Word. --91.153.158.125 (talk) 23:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mr Vegas

Clearly Johnny is fat! What clinical evidence are you after - his medical reports? You only have to look at the picture of him.... Brookie :) - he's in the building somewhere! (Whisper...) 16:39, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

You're an admin, you should know policy. Obese is a clinical term defined by Body Mass Index and to comply with WP:BLP would need a source. As for "fat", what encyclopedic value does it have? we both know he's fat. He is. But is it sourced? --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 16:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Divorce from wife

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23451489-details/Johnny+Vegas+ended+marriage+over+ex-wife%27s+%27drunken+and+unpredictable+behaviour%27/article.do

Someone more competent than myself may want to include this in the article. (Oh My Gawd!!! (talk) 13:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC))

Have added this, with a slightly more reliable source, and copyedited the section. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 15:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Being slapped by Charlotte Church

This whole Charlotte Church story seems very dodgy. Everything I can find about it online seems to be taken from a single article from the Sun, printed before the show aired, based on statements from a single audience member. The slap itself is not on youtube, but other parts are and it seems very unlikely that that interview turned so nasty. Comments from people who have seen the show suggest that the slap was actually in good fun (if it is, the article should reflect that). I've removed a link to wikinews, since it gives the impression of a reference, when that news story can also be reduced to just the Sun article. Can anybody clear this up? 84.245.33.163 (talk) 14:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh hello, reverted already. Can I just point out that this is a bio and we do need to be extra careful about poorly sourced material. To be honest, it should be removed until this can be resolved. (maybe logging in will lend me some credence) risk (talk) 15:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry, I saw that your edit history was good, and I know you did it in good faith. I'm not one of those types who doesn't like anon editors. My response to your other concerns (I hope) is below. Dreaded Walrus t c 15:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
(after edit conflict) The reason I re-added the Wikinews link is because that story contains citations. One of which is the Metro [1], and the other is on icWales News. For some reason, every story on there currently results in a server error, but the story should be here, and there is a Google cache of a page that links to the story here. ("Drunk Vegas gets a slap from Church - Sep 15 2006: Charlotte Church squared up to comic Johnny Vegas and slapped him across the face on her chat show after he got drunk and abusive and insulted her family....:"). Dreaded Walrus t c 15:07, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh. Now the page works. It must have just been down for a few minutes. The icWales story linked above no longer results in an error. Dreaded Walrus t c 15:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have realized you may have been typing a reply. I did see those references but they all echo the Sun article, where one audience member gave some statements. I don't know icWales, but Metro isn't tremendously reputable. Looking at the youtube clips and (equally unreliable) comments from people on the internet suggests that the show went quite well, and everything was in good fun. The Sun article (and its children) were published before the show was aired. The thing suggests that some audience member misinterpreted what he/she was seeing, the Sun inflated the story further, other low-rate newspapers took over the story (with the lack of fact checking that seems so common these days), the producers of Charlotte Church's show made no attempts to suppress the rumour (can't hurt the ratings), then the show aired, everybody saw that everything was fine, and the whole thing blew over. No problem, except that now, Wikipedia has included this, based some rather weak (indirect) references.
Maybe this happened, maybe it was a big deal after all. But I think we should be sure before including it. risk (talk) 15:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
You know, I don't really think the sentence in question even needs to be included. It is not exactly a major thing, or anything new for him, leering at audience members. I think it would be fine just leaving the sentence in question, about him appearing on the show, out of the article? Dreaded Walrus t c 15:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree. If anybody feels otherwise, we can resume the discussion. risk (talk) 15:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Alright. Sorry again for the earlier stress. Dreaded Walrus t c 16:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)