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Shock jocks? A shock jock is someone like Howard Stern or Opie and Anthony. Kobylt and Chiampou are more like Don Imus with the politics than anything else. 71.104.177.90


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[edit] Needs More Organization

How come there is no mention of their start on New Jersey 101.5 and the political frenzy they created in NJ? That start is what got them the job in California!Notajerseygirl 17:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


"History" and "Format" are the only catagories so far. There is alot of information, but its not organized. I believe that the information should start being divided into new catagories and sub-catagories. --QubitOtaku 09:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Asperger's Syndrome?

When did John say this on his radio show? Do you know approximately when, or of some other source? It seems like a random statement, please explain more. --QubitOtaku 08:40, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

This is in regards to the murder suicide of William Freund in late October. He had on a guest from wrongplanet.net discussing the symptoms of Asperger's and John mentioned that he had some of them (lack of empathy, obsession over trivial things (baseball in his case), always insisting he is right). You might be able to find a reference in the audio archives from the first part of early November. Or wait until the hosts joke about it from reading a random news story. Calwatch 09:07, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
That sounds like he was joking about it then. The way its announced the the Wikipedia article makes it sound like he has a serious illness (even though its not). -- I'll browse the audio archives to see if I can find it. --QubitOtaku 10:03, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Log scale

I have doubt that the hosts chose the Richter scale because of its logrithmic properties. --Davidstrauss 02:20, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Though this article does include several references, most of the material is apparently unverifiable. My guess is that much of it is original research derived from editors listening to the show. Let's try to find as many sources as we can, and pare down on the unsourced info. -Will Beback 19:37, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair warning that unsourced material will be eventually removed. -Will Beback 20:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I really don't want to remove all of this stuff - but it's almost totally unsourced. C'mon, is this all original research? Isn't there a Radio Journal or similar source for talk radio info? -Will Beback · † · 09:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
laradio.com is a location where a lot of these comments are chronicled, but it is a pay only (web) trade journal. Barrett is a reliable source cited numerous times by the local papers, none of which have a radio columnist on staff. Calwatch 06:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
That's a start. Most mentions of John and Ken that I can find in Google focus on their immigration stand [1][2][3] and their political positions, a few quotable opinions [4][5][6], some random coverage of them related to specifc but random stories.[7][8] nothing on their format or history. Here's a nice quote from a New York Times story, but no date.[9] These are already in the text or EL, but don't discuss the show: [10][11] An FEC compliance case final decision (a primary source)[12]. It's pretty slim pickings. For non-controversial descriptions of their format and history I suppose that their blog would be considered reliable, but they've got a huge archive so that'll take time. -Will Beback · † · 07:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
LA Weekly[13][14] OC Register [15][16] -Will Beback · † · 08:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I would like to contribute to sourcing some of the info in this article, but I'm having a hard time with the referencing system used in the article (take a look under the References section). It seems to be done in a static way so that each new reference added may require the other references to be altered. Could this be done in a way that encourages adding references without a lot of hassle? I also think that both the links under References are dead. Sarnalios 23:41, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Since I didn't get any response to my last addition to this talk page on the issue of sourcing the article, I went ahead and changed the referencing format as best as I could. Now at least new references should appear in the References section when added in the article. If you know of a better format than what is currently used, feel free to apply it to the article. The main thing, at least from my perspective, is that people are able to contribute to making the article better by adding sourced information or sourcing the existing information in the article. Sarnalios 13:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't respond sooner - I missed your postings here. Thanks for adding sources. However the article is still largely unsourced. It's been tagged since October 2006. We've found some possible sources, but no one has gone through and used them to support assertions in the article. I'm going to go ahead and remove the totally-unsourced history section for starters since it is also biographical. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 21:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ken Chiampou

It is obvious that Chiampou is gay. His partner is the co-owner of his home for crying out loud. But, we need to be careful about WP:BLP before posting something there. Calwatch (talk) 08:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that Chiampou's sexual preferences should be included in the article. His marital status, yes, but speculations as to his sexual preferences do not belong in an encyclopedia. Sarnalios (talk) 19:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Unless the subject makes a declaration about his orientation it's just gossip. Even when that gossip comes from a colleague it's still gossip. If a reliable source takes up the matter as it pertains to this radio show it may be appropriate to include some mention but until we have such sources we should leave it out. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Opposition to the Iraq war

regarding the quote "They are libertarian in other aspects, such as being pro-choice, supporting gays in the military,[14] opposing the influence of the Religious Right on American politics, opposing the Iraq War..." in "Not respectors of partisan politics:" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryratt (talk • contribs) 21:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

John and Ken originally favored the 2003 invasion then changed positions on it sometime later. source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31261

Ryratt (talk) 21:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)