Talk:John Wojtowicz
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Both the Dog Day Afternoon article and the imdb page say that Ernest Aron died in 1987, not 1982. I'm changing it, but don't know if the article date quoted was correct apart from the year, so I'm removing the entire date. — Asbestos | Talk 3 July 2005 00:30 (UTC)
Wojtowicz says that he and Aron were married [[1]]. But Dragonpi says they weren't, although his claim is uncited and appears to be based upon an assumption. Do we know anything about the circumstances of Wojtowicz's marriage that might shed light upon the question?
- As I read it, Dragonpi seems to be arguing that, because the Roman Catholic church does not recognize gay marriage, whatever ceremony Wojtowicz and Aron performed was not properly Roman Catholic. The article may be better phrased "married in a mock Roman Catholic wedding," or something like that. Uucp 02:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, but we don't know what the circumstances of the wedding were. If a Roman Catholic priest performed a wedding mass for them, it seems reasonable to say they were married in a Roman Catholic ceremony, even if that ceremony wasn't approved by church hierarcy. I realize it's a semantic argument, but if, for example, the priest decided that they should be married, or didn't realize they were a same-sex couple (Aron WAS a transsexual, after all), that doesn't mean the ceremony didn't happen. "In a mock Roman Catholic wedding" doesn't seem quite accurate if the priest married them in good faith, to me. -FisherQueen 21:22, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Date of release from prison
Everything I've read says that Wojtowicz only served seven years out of his twenty year sentence, yet this article says that he was released in 1987. By my calculations, that is fifteen years. Why the discrepancy? Are people getting the date of his lover's death mixed up with the date he was released from prison? Shouldn't he have been released around 1979 or 80? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Williams (talk • contribs) 17:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Wojtowicz was released from the Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania on April 10, 1987 after serving almost 14 years and 8 months of his 20 year sentence. I don't know where they come up with the false statement that he was released from prison after only 7 years, but it is not true! 24.168.42.182 14:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pronouns and male/female name
All articles at the time refer to Wojtowicz's transexual lover by male name and pronoun. A wikipedia editor has just gone through and changed all of these to female name and pronoun. Does anybody know the date of any legal name change? If not, I think use of the male name and pronoun is probably appropriate, before the date of a sex-change operation anyway. Uucp (talk) 22:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
