Talk:John Payne (singer)

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[edit] Birthdate

Somebody's keen to remove this person's birthdate. Well, perhaps the birthdate is wrong. Rather than simply reverting the removal, perhaps somebody who has reliable materials about Payne can revert the removal and provide a credible source for the date. -- Hoary (talk) 11:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see my comments at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#John Payne (singer). Mike R (talk) 14:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

To repeat those comments here (as they will soon be lost to the AN/I archive), Wikipedia's policy on articles about living people supports not including birthdate information unless it is adequately sourced. Bondegezou (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I only saw this thread after adding the birthdate which is stated on de:John Payne (Musiker). I don't find the previous discussion on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#John Payne (singer), anyway, I have reverted my addition. What is so wrong with that date? http://groups.google.com/group/jpmusic/browse_thread/thread/0061591e1d87d12b seems to indicate that the same date can be found in the book "The Heat Goes On" by David Gallant which is listed as a source in the German article. BNutzer (talk) 14:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi BNutzer. Wikipedia's policy on articles about living people recommends caution about including birthdate information unless the information is adequately sourced. In that context, a second-hand comment that the information is in "The Heat Goes On" seems insufficient sourcing to me. However, I'll see if I can check the book directly (I've got a copy but I'm not certain where it is(!) and it went through a number of different editions). Bondegezou (talk) 14:31, 17 March 2008 (UTC)