Talk:John Manners, Marquess of Granby

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Public houses named "Marquis of Granby". The Marquess was a leader greatly loved by his men. The story is that when senior NCOs retired, he would help them set up in the licenced trade, and hence they named their premises in his honour. The confusion between "Marquess" and "Marquis" is a common one. "Marquess" (as in Queensberry) is the English spelling, "Marquis" (as in de Sade) is French. Reference needed.

It's not quite that simple. The use of Marquess -v- Marquis in UK use was part fashon and part history. Scottish peers tended (and to some extent still do see the Duke of Roxburghe) to use the French form the English used the English form. It is now common to use the English form for all forms but as with the examples above there is some reasonable grounds for exceptions to this rule.Alci12 13:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)