Talk:John II of France
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[edit] John vs. Jean
Can someone explain to me why the name of Jean II is "translated" or anglicized for the title of this article? If his name was Jean, would it not make more sense to simply leave it "as is"? PGNormand 17:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stub?
This article seems awfully short for a biographical article on a King of France. I think it's worthy of being labeled a stub. Are there any objections to this? RobertM525 04:16, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
- Guess not. A stub it is. (I'm using the French nobility stub because I can't find a French royalty stub, but if there is one, it should be used instead.) RobertM525 09:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Count of Auvergne?
I arrived at this article following the counts of Auvergne in the Rulers of Auvergne page, but here I finfd no evidence of him being count of Auvergne. divugi@hotmail.com
- His second wife was the countess of Auvergne and Boulogne. I've added her to the page. Choess 15:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Decision to return to England?
The article is a bit biased in saying John sacrificed himself to return to England. France was devestated by years of war and the black plague, while England had all sorts of good things for Jean.
[edit] Royal privileges?
I have added a {{Fact}} tag to the following paragraph, as it isn't consistent with the preceding one which says that he was held captive at a variety of locations. Can someone verify this? --MichaelMaggs 11:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
*As a prisoner of the English, the King of France was granted royal privileges, permitted to travel about, and to enjoy a regal lifestyle. At a time when law and order was breaking down in France and the government was having a hard time raising money for the defense of the realm, his account books during his captivity show that he was purchasing horses, pets and clothes while maintaining an astrologer and a court band.
[edit] Contradition with Treaty of Mantes
In "Treaty of Mantes" it is written that "By the treaty, ... but the peace he desired was not sustained and Charles... assassinated his constable, Charles de la Cerda, later that year." Thus the treaty was before the assassination.
On the other hand, this article says "...Charles II of Navarre... was implicated in the assassination of the Constable of France, Charles de la Cerda. Nevertheless... John signed the Treaty of Mantes with Charles." Thus the assassination happened before the treaty.
What is correct?
Top.Squark (talk) 14:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- I quickly checked one of the references on Treaty of Mantes (Zacour), and he makes it clear that the treaty followed the assassination. Choess (talk) 14:58, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
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- If so, I suggest you correct the article and place the appropriate reference. Top.Squark (talk) 18:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
