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Contents 1 Most expensive bass ever sold 2 Death 2.1 Another cite for the hooker reference 2.2 Were the Cops called? 3 Work with Glenn Tipton 4 10 Thousand Watts Onstage 5 An Ox's Tale 6 Pentatonic Scale?

[edit] Most expensive bass ever sold

I don't have enough experience to do this edit yet, but would love to put the point across that Entwistles "Frankenstein" bass is the most expensive ever sold (for $100,000), at the auction referenced in the article. I can find a reference to the sale on the Fender "most wanted basses" page, but it's copyrighted and I know not enough legalese! google for "frankenstein bass sothebys" and it's the first link.

[edit] Death

A recent article in british tabloid newspaper the mirror says that Entwistle died in the arms of a hooker. is there anytruth behind this rock and roll story and should it be added to the article?

Another rumor claims it was a group of strippers, as that's what his wife was told, but I don't think there's any way of proving it.

Roger Daltrey has stated in interviews that Entwhistle died a "rock 'n' roller's death... two lines of cocaine and two hookers"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmbih2eRENQ Thedukeofno 16:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another cite for the hooker reference

Via the Los Angeles Times online blogs: "John Entwistle died with cocaine in his system and a local stripper in his bed". --Bobak 14:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Were the Cops called?

If so, there would be a record and statement by said hooker to the Cops. Sounds like a job for The Smoking Gun. This report would also state the hotel room number. Just a thought... --76.178.143.62 (talk) 01:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Work with Glenn Tipton

I think it should be mentioned he played bass on Glenn Tipton's solo album "Edge of the World" (2006) shortly before his death. I don't really know enough about it to fill it in myself.

He played on many other people's projects (Flash Fearless Vs The Zorg Women, a George Harrison tribute album, etc.) It would possibly require a new section to the article.

[edit] 10 Thousand Watts Onstage

During an MTV interview he was asked about his preference for NOT running through the board (or p.a. system). He stated that it was to keep from muddying up the sound and to keep it totally under his control - not the venues or managers or band mates. He gave a detailed breakdown of the number of amps and stacks and effects he used and their sequence of connection, which totaled 10,000 watts! Truly - a THUNDER GOD!!!

[edit] An Ox's Tale

I think that somebody should add a section, or at least mention, the recently released documetary about John Entwistle's life, An Ox's Tale. I would do it, but I have yet to see it. Somebody who has seen may want to consider adding it.--Bappzannigan 23:00, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah i May be able to handle that one. It doesn't really say much that the article doesnt, but i will later :) Odin 14:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pentatonic Scale?

The article claims that Entwhistle is unique in his use of the pentatonic scale, among other things. The pentatonic scale (Particularly E) is one of the cornerstones of rock music, unless there is something about his use of it that is special, I need some clarification.GolumTR 13:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Please define cornerstone. Odin 14:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Because Pentatonic scales sound good even after distortion and have no major dissonances, it is how nearly every rock guitarist (it is also extensively used by jazz musicians) to form their solos. By cornerstone specifically I mean that is a fundamental unit, something that it is necessary to understand in order to be proficient, more like a foundation than a literal cornerstone.

Ok do what you want - you have more musical knowledge than me. What the hell is dissonance? 81.152.237.254 18:28, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Since I first wrote this I realized that Entwhistle is a bassist. I don't know why this obvious fact slipped by. Most bassists play root notes, and thus a bassist using pentatonic scale would be unusual, though hardly unique. I don't mean this as a slam, he is an amazing fluid bassist! I just thought there might be some crazy compositional stuff that my ears couldn't hear. It's not the most important thing in music, but it's interesting to read about! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.218.107 (talk) 00:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)