Talk:John D. Roush

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Objection to claim of non notable software executive

Per WP: The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.

This person John D. Roush has been attributed as the founder, inventor, creator of numerous concepts, methodologies (techniques) in the areas of large-scale eCommerce, cooperative atonomous systems (computers technology), privacy and protection (computer technology).

Though currently an executive, he is actually the financial backer (philanthropist) of a movement to stop spam with better then 99.99% effectiveness (while not loosing any real email. He is also notable not only within his local community, but both nationally and internationally due to his numerious technology innovatations and pitcth-hitting within the industry.

Should his current occupation not be listed? It was to differentiate from John A. Roush, the college president, who he is often confused with by the media (who is also another notable person, but ONLY within his community).

Therefor if the lesser, John A. Roush, is allowed, the greater known should also.

Specifics of John D. Roush's innovations (which I'll add to the Wikipedia listing when I get a chance) for example:
Distributed Real-time Agent-based eCommerce:

A unique eCommerce methodology in which a consmuer's Internet transaction (eCommerce) is financially completed by one agent, and real-time delivery of an electronic product (DRM controlled PDF) is simultainiously delivered by a 3rd party without the the commerce and delivery systems being integrated - whil being MD5 secured to 128+ bits. His invention enabled the birth of Digital Distribution of consumer publications in 2000, first used by the 10 major magazine publishers: Initial depolyment of the technology

CMP Media LLC
Crain Communications, Inc.
Dennis Publishing
Gruner + Jahr USA Publishing
Hachette Filipacchi Magazines
Hearst Magazines Division
The McGraw Hill Companies
Meredith Corporation
Rodale, Inc.
Ziff Davis Media, Inc.

Already Listed, but will expand his specific contribution as a leader in: Engaged by [Adobe.com Adobe] to complete their DRM technology for their PDFMerchant product, and roll out its first public use of the produce for [qMags.com], Smartcard Smartcards, AutoWhitelisting, of which all three technologies developed (or completed) by this person have a significant impact on millions of people each day.

Primary reasons for article
1) To eliminate/reduce confusion with John A. Roush, college president
2) To provide background to people researching this individual's other technology
involvements (he's not noted for one invention nor software system, but multiple that impact many).
3) His name is used to leverage community colunteer sponsorship as an incentive for others to follow. (Executives should do more than just donate their company's funds.)
4) It's not a resume (does not discuss his employment, positions, investments, nor personal patents) - Dates and Company names are for scope of where said innovation was commonly used.
5) In all, I don't believe a person must be widely known within the common public to be considered "notable". This person is notable within his community as well as nationally and internationally within the DRM-controlled magazine publishing, eCommerce, and anti-spam industries. A well as across numerious fortune 1,000 companies, so people are often researching him - give it a couple months, and see how many hits you get - it'll be at least hundreds.

Dale Wvr 19:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)



Comments from the guy this is all about - I've been notified of this article's existence.

Amazing how I mention Wikipedia in a few speeches as a source in need of true technology experts to help out and expand the system to cover how a lot of these computer technologies actually work (from the ground-up), and suddenly we're discussing if I'm noteworthy of credit for my personal contributions (that are used by millions every day), rather than working on the articles of the techniques/technologies/inventions themselves. I feel like the BASF commercials (of which I'm often told are a good analogy) the common public benefits from my works but don't know I'm there... only the companies that engage BASF (or me) know what we each can do.

Anyhow...
I will help advise the author(s) to improve their summary-biography of me with more of a focus on my algorithms and techniques, rather than a simple list of the products that use them (how people really known of their existence).

Please, also consider...
Rather than create a separate article for each of these items, or edit existing articles, that everyone involved in this project consider listing my personal contribution toward said technologies or technique improvements here, rather than edit existing articles to give me credit there.

For example, please do not edit the article on SmartCards to note the data acquisition contention problem that occurred with the 1996 Olympics test deployment of Visa SmartCards, and how I was brought in to design a non-contention algorithm as a result of the original inventor's, (Lloyd Dubroff) death when flying with his daughter Jessica Dubroff. I think the description pitch-hitter is sufficient to say, that I'm brought in to help in hyper-critical situations. Adobe's failing DRM technology is another good example - but rather than discuss why, or how I was there (the reason people feel I'm notable), please just focus on the end-result of the technology contribution when describing each of these.

Another suggestion
Please loose the dates... also, does it really matter if I was the individual that enhanced a commercial financial/inventor management system to be multi-site and have POS capabilities? That sounds more resume-ish than technological contribution; whereas the whole Sender Validation thing is based on invention and successful use by millions to stop +99.9% of spam - now that is notable, as it helps people every day (vs. just another 90% anti-spam system, it's like a car that gets 500MPG - worth being made aware of).

Good luck you-all, and thanks for differentiating me from the college president... you'd be surprised how often people ask me how I balance being an R&D scientist and a college President! ...it's easy, I'm two people! ..really!

John Roush 22:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC)