Talk:John Ciardi
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Can we get his birthdate and the date of his death? -- Jredmond
00:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)00:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)~~== Surname ==
Does anyone know how his surname is pronounced so we can write it in in IPA? It is highly ambiguous.-Estrellador* 23:24, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
- It's chee-AHR-dee, just as it would be in Italian. Wspencer11 18:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Correction: The Italian pronunciation of Ciardi is actually CHAR-dee. The "i" and "a" are pronounced together, not separately (thus the "c" and "i" are not pronounced as they would ordinarily be in Italian as "chee"); "cia" is pronounced as a single syllable, "cha," and Ciardi is pronounced CHAR-dee, as John Ciardi himself pronounced it. Go to Ciardi's poem "A Knothole in Spent Time" in his verse autobiography, Lives of X, to see him explain the pronunciation of his name. Edward Cifelli, 15 November 2006.
[edit] Current state of article
While I personally agree with the article as it stands, the fact is that it's pretty POV right now, and it would behoove someone who knows more about him than I do to clean things up some. --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 13:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Agreed; I will POV-mark it--Natcase 06:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Greetings, a while ago I added an item to the bibliography (a science fiction short story he wrote under the pseudonym "John Anthony"), but someone deleted it. Any idea why? PapayaSF 16 January 2007
[edit] POV issues
Basically, the added content is great, but we need sources especially for opinions. The context of his fame and declining popularity should not be generic but specific, and referenced. Facts are good to have referenced as well, but especially statements like "He was uniquely talented" and "often an exceptionally fine one" should be framed as quotes from external authorities rather than as the opinion of the encyclopedia. I encourage Alicedilfdrew and others to have at it again!--Natcase 06:28, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Some new information to add?
I had a lengthy and pleasant chat with his daughter over the weekend and am wondering how (or even if) I should add information I learned. Does it count as original research? If not how would I cite it? (I have never been any good at dealing with citations here anyway...) --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 13:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC) weeeeeeeeeeeeee! hurray! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.45.199 (talk) 21:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
