Talk:John Charles Dodson, 3rd Baron Monk Bretton

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[edit] House of Lords?

I know that http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peers/ is not definitive, but I can't find Dodson on that list? Do you think he was one of the large crowd of hereditary peers that was kicked out of the House in the reforms a few years ago? --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 21:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

• He is in Who's Who, though there is nothing in his listing (apart from the fact that he has a listing) to make him Lord Monk Bretton notable for an encyclopedia. I hope he has served in the House of Lords at some point in his life (perhaps before the web was invented!) --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 22:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

he's there in the Hansard search engine (but be sure to re-set the year scope to go back to 1999 and earlier, which took me a while to manage) as Monk Bretton, which is quite unusual in that the title is made up of two words. Rodolph (talk) 01:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Happily, Google is not perfect! Good to see you have added to the article to establish his notability without doubt. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 13:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Footnote

Rodolph, My intention was to mark with 'ref' tags facts that are actually in the Who's Who entry. By the phrase "some of it" in the footnote, do you mean that I made a mistake and some facts aren't backed by the source? --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 14:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] designated heir

Rodolph asked me if we can get rid of the word 'designated' in the incumbent cell of the succession box. I have now read the instructions at Template:S-inc, but I don't know if should be just 'heir', 'heir apparent' or 'heir presumptive'. I put 'heir' for now. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 13:52, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

good work! There's even a wiki page called: Heir presumptive. In short it seems to mean when the heir is not absolutely obvious, ie. rather than father to son, something like, cousin to cousin, for example Winston Churchill's 'presumption', or presumption of presumption, as heir to the duchy of Marlboro [sic] was lost when a cousin had a son at some quite late age.Rodolph (talk) 01:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)