Talk:John Carlos

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We have some revisionist history in this article. The reason they wore gloves on different hands was not to represent different things; it was because the gloves were in fact a pair.

• I agree. In addition, it was not "many people" but then - IOC president Avery Brundage who opposed the action. --89.49.138.225 13:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I heard a song about John Carlos and it may be artistic freedom, but it said he was branded a troublemaker and had trouble finding a job afterwards. It is somewhat contradicted by the article saying he did play pro football. The song also claims his work for Puma was unpaid and that he lived on giving interviews. The article needs some dates. I guess his work for the USOC was at least in 1972, but what did he do between then and 1985? // Liftarn

Addition: I found an interview where he says he had some hard times[1]. // Liftarn

I'm guessing that you are talking about the song "Mr. John Carlos" from the 1974 album "Livet är en fest" by the Swedish progg band Nationalteatern, Liftarn. It's a great song but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the details in the lyrics are due to artistic freedom. The person in the song claims to have met John Carlos at the 1972 olympics, that he worked unpaid for Puma and that he did interviews for 100 SEK ($10-20). It sure would be interesting to find out if there is some truth to that story. It could be that the song wirter, Ulf Dageby, or someone he knew actually met John Carlos at the 1972 olympics. Anyway, a song is not a good source for a Wikipedia article so we'll have to find some other source supporting those claims. However, the song might be worth mentioning as a cultural reference in the article and perhaps also in the 1968 Olympics Black Power salute article since it depicts the whole event. Maybe someone from the US should decide if it is relevant to mention a Swedish song about John Carlos in the article. Jkej (talk) 21:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm certainly not suggesting to use the song as a source, but it would be interesting to know how much of it is based on facts. The article is very vague on the subject. // Liftarn (talk)

I added the song as a cultural reference. If someone doesn't think it's notable enough she/he can remove it. Jkej (talk) 10:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)