Talk:Joe Hill (writer)

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Contents 1 Author Photo 2 Private Life 3 Awards section 4 Lead dispute 5 Birthdate

[edit] Author Photo

Can someone supply a photo of the author? --NYKenny 12:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

hehe - I found one! NYKenny 00:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Private Life

"He keeps his private life exceedingly private". Says who? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.76.151.153 (talk) 05:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Awards section

Wouldn't the awards section work better if it gave the name of the award, and then the titles for which he has won them?

[edit] Lead dispute

Mr. 172, the article doesn't say that no one knew that Hill was King's son before he "publicly revealed his identity in 2007," or before "Variety broke his cover." Please stop removing sourced statements from the article. Doing so constitutes vandalism. Deor (talk) 12:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, let's try to find out exactly what bee is in your bonnet, 172. On the basis of what you insist upon removing from the article, it can be concluded that you object to the following:

• "for whom he was named"
• "[chose to use a nom de plume] in 1997"
• "out of a desire to succeed based solely on his own merits"
• "After achieving a degree of independent success, Hill publicly revealed his identity in 2007 after an article the previous year in Variety broke his cover."

What exactly in each of these bits of content troubles you? All are verifiable from the cited source; and for any of them to be removed, we need a source that calls the information into question or provides a more authoritative set of facts. Can you point us to any? Deor (talk) 00:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The quote "out of a desire...etc" has now been put in quotation marks (assuming it did appear as stated in the VF article). If it did not, the whole sentence should be removed and restored to my earlier version, because it is not a proveable fact that a) this was Hill's motivation and b) no one knew who he was. A significant number of editors, publishers, awards judges and reviewers knew exactly who he was, although understandably, there has never been a printed article discussing this issue. Obviously the general reading public were not aware of who Hill really was, but it is important to balance the claim that Hill wished to succeed based solely on his own merits with an acknolwedgement that several key people did know who he was. For example, it could - theoretically - have had an impact upon the decisions of those same editors, publishers, awards judges and reviewers. The bottom line is that most people within the horror fraternity know that these people knew who Hill was when they reviewed / praised / and rewarded Hill's work, so when they see that Wikipedia being used to distort the actual truth by way of flattering puff, it does not reflect well upon Wikipedia. Hill's work will and should be judged on its merits regardless of who his father is; however, in the interests of clarity and balance, it should be acknowledged that some important people in the genre knew who Hill during the period of time he claims that no one actually did. Mr 172 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.206.19.248 (talk) 23:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Per WP:V: The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that readers should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed.--CyberGhostface (talk) 22:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Birthdate

Many sites cite his birth year as 1974. This article states 1972. Can someone get the right year, and preferably month & day also? --Cdman882 (talk) 15:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)