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That sudden influx of "new" Hendrix albums we had in the 1990s was because the copyright situation finally got sorted out--I don't remember whom the courts decided in favor of. ("His musical legacy was still being sorted out more than twenty years after his death, with both Hendrix' father and a man claiming to be Hendrix' son in dispute over copyright.") IIRC, both parties got some portion of the royalties--but I'm not certain of it. Koyaanis Qatsi, Tuesday, June 25, 2002 hi now !!

I kind of cheated with that phrase "musical legacy". I had in mind not only the Hendrix estate in the legal sense but also the artistic inheritance. I think a lot of people are stuck back in the "superspade" era in their understanding of what Hendrix did as an artist, notwithstanding the shambles of his career and his life before he died. There are a lot of players who are popular, whom we love, who are important to us, and then there are the very few "world artists" like Hank Williams, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Jimi Hendrix. That's not the whole list, of course, but they really are in a different category.

BTW, I really paused and repaused over "choked on his own vomit". Romantics love that stuff, but in fact what happens, as I understand it, is more like drug-induced paralysis of the central nervous system and you die, vomit or not. Take enough barbiturates and you can die hanging over the rail. It's a little different in the Hendrix case, since he may have actually died in the ambulance, but wouldn't it be enough to say "died in a barbiturate-induced coma"? Ortolan88

Eh, I didn't write that part. My (mis?)understanding of it was that he took too many sleeping pills and never woke up. I've never read a bio of him, just various articles in guitar magazines. Koyaanis Qatsi, Wednesday, June 26, 2002

Re: previous two comments - if the cause of death was in fact suffocation, would he not in fact belong on a List of people who choked to death on their own vomit? 209.149.235.254 21:41, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

We mention B. B. King, Little Richard, Curtis Knight, and The Monkees, so why shouldn't we mention Ellen McIlwaine? The Ellen McIlwaine article says she "traded influences" with Hendrix. I have no idea whether that is true, but I don't understand why we should remove half a sentence in this article saying Hendrix played with another notable guitarist in his formative years. Ortolan88 16:05 Nov 4, 2002 (UTC)

Because McIlwaine is not a terribly notable guitarist, and Hendrix played with just about everyone who was passing through NYC, and played with considerably more notable people in London (Clapton, Page etc...) One can barely begin to list the notable people Hendrix played with, and McIlwaine is nowhere near the top of that list ... it seems like an arbitrary inclusion by a McIlwaine fan. (As to the McIlwaine article ... well, don't get me started on the McIlwaine article) -- User:GWO

Okay. Seems reasonable to me. Ortolan88

So I dropped "The Wind Cries Mary" in the wrong place in a sentence. Sorry. I'll never do it again. Ortolan88

Aahh. Sorry, didn't mean to be over harsh. Bad coding day... -- User:GWO

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madison square gardens link

Should the broken link to Madison Square Gardens link to Madison Square Garden. This got flagged by Daniel Quinlan's Redirect Project, on this page: User:Daniel Quinlan/redirects5

Urban Legend

The article claims that the list of 150 songs was an urban legend. It is not. The urban legend was that the songs were banned. Clear Channel did not forbid radio stations from playing these songs; however, they did recommend that the stations not play the songs. Here is what the Snopes page says:

Accordingly, a program director at Clear Channel Communications (an organization which operates over 1,170 radio stations in the United States), after discussions with program directors at several of Clear Channel Radio's stations, compiled an advisory list of songs which stations might wish to avoid playing in the short term.

In light of this, I'm going to change that paragraph. Quadell (talk) 12:54, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)

I removed the clear channel blacklist comment. I don't believe the supposed blacklist says much of anything about Hendrix, considering that perhaps half of all recording artists who had hits that are played by clear channel had at least one song on the list. Therefore, it doesn't belong here, and since it is already present in the clear channel and sept 11 articles I think it is adequately covered.

Discography

This article has so much text describing Jimi's life, but the discography section needs work, compared to other WP music pages. Some of those have separate pages for expansive discographies (e.g. The Beatles discography), but for now I was thinking of just adding a few essentials, such as the remaining Experience Hendrix live albums, South Saturn Delta - the things that would form the 'core' collection for someone just getting into Jimi's music. And also album-pages for those, like the BBC Sessions one, currently linked to, but empty. Anyone want to help out?

Also maybe the categories are a bit off. At the moment it looks like First Rays is a completed studio album done in his lifetime, as it's in there with AYE, Axis, and Ladyland, when it's really an approximation of what *could* have been, constructed decades later. It's halfway between an album and a rarities compilation, to my mind, so I'm not sure whether it should be in 'Studio Albums' or 'Compilations' or some other category altogether. Hmm.

WikiSimon 19:27, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Should this page have a basic or brief discography? The existing link points to a zipped word file that failed to open on my side. Modi

Whence came "died later at St Mary's"? If the quotations of the doctor and paramedics in Rethinking John Lennon's Assassination (online with traffic quota) are legit, he was dead well before leaving his room. He may have been pronounced dead at hospital, but that doesn't mean he died there. Kwantus 21:37, 2004 Dec 23 (UTC)

Too much detail

Like a number of WP music articles, this one suffers from too much detail; a reader may well lose the forest for the trees. In particular, the stream-of-consciousness account of Hendrix's 1970 shows and the recordings in circulation of them is almost a WP parody. The exacting account of guitar auctions also falls into this category, as do several other asides. Focus on the main points of Hendrix's life and music, so that readers can get a true appreciation for this great musician. -- jls 20 Mar 2005

I gave it once-over, but it still needs work. Some gems are buried in the detailed time-line style. --sparkit 01:21, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Better now. But the 1970 section still read like a bootleg guide rather than an article. I've pulled out the set-list detail and condensed it further. Hopefully it still gets across what Hendrix's last year was like. -- jls 22 Mar 2005
Also, much of the album detail is repeated in separate articles about the albums. --sparkit 01:21, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hendrix LP releases after his death are quite interesting. it tells how the industry represented, and as is revealed quite happily misreprested him as well. To miss out on this would not be quite right LP's for most of us were the main link with Hendrix as an artist. Biographical material is interesting but LP's and recorded sound contain a wealth of important information. It was me that wrote a lot of this detail ie Albert Hall, Band of Gypsys ,Cry of Love Tour, Fat Matress -Thin Pillow Rainbow Bridge .

Happy to hear any comments.61.68.162.248 12:46, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

References section

This page could certainly use one. ~~ Shiri 04:25, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)

Which is correct? Or did this actually happen twice? Ubermonkey 13:07, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)


In November 1968 the band appeared live on BBC's primetime variety show hosted by Lulu on the day that Cream announced their disbanding.

vs.

On 4 January 1969 he was accused by television producers of arrogance after playing an impromptu version of "Sunshine of Your Love" past his allotted time slot on the BBC1 show Happening for Lulu.

Why guess ?? when the audio is readily available of what happened - as well as video clip as well To appreciate this have a listen to BBC Sessions Hendrix Estate edition . Hendrix was talked into "Hey Joe" with a glamourous intro by Lulu. Announcing himself "Block your ears" Hendrix launches into some really heavy brilliant playing with chordal progressions - the best part of the piece by all accounts- as though he was tired of the 3 min format demanded by the industry and was saying to himself, Im a player of guitar not a format driven artist to play No 1 Hits. Part of the way through Hey Joe he then says as the Strat is really getting out of tune ""We want to stop playing this rubbish and dedicate the next song to the Cream" ( who had announced their break up - Cream history should give dates and times ) BBC staff rapidly try and stop the performance with Hendrix after about 2 mins saying in to the microphone "We are being taken off the air" bringing Sunshine of Your Love sadly to a premature ending 61.68.162.248 13:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC).

Dick Cavett Show appearance

I've modified the comment about 'outrage' in association with the Dick Cavett show reference; it's too strong. Cavett made a lighthearted reference to "nasty letters", then when Hendrix queried this, he spoke of the "unorthodox" nature of the performance. jamesgibbon 22:05, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Jimi's last Boston Gig

I saw Hendrix once, in 1970, at the Boston Garden. Does someone know what month/day that was? I dont... isnt there some kind of agenda left? guess not... Thanks

It was June 27 197061.68.162.248 13:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hendrix faked being gay, was avidly anti-Communist

Someone added a claim on 30 July 2005 that Hendrix claim to have fallen in love with a fellow soldier in order to get discharged. This was unattributed, but I revised to note that this claim was made by Charles Cross in his new book, Room Full of Mirrors: : A Biography of Jimi Hendrix". Cross also made another claim, that's also likely to be controversial: that Hendrix was an avid anti-Communist who did not leave the Army in protest of the war, but rather that he just wanted to focus on playing guitar. Cross claims to have learned about the claims of gayness in previously unreleased Army records. This story has been picked up by various papers, such as this review of the biography by the (Seattle Post-Intelligencer).

yeah apparently jimi did abit of public meat beatin' (masturbation) to get out i cant recall where i read it but yeah...

-13 year old black kid.

Better choice of words?

Some comments regarding the following paragraph:

"The Strat's easy action and relatively narrow neck were also ideally suited to Hendrix's evolving style and enhanced his tremendous dexterity — Hendrix' hands were large enough to fret across all six strings with the top joint of his thumb alone, and he could reputedly play lead and rhythm parts simultaneously. A more amazing fact about Hendrix is that he was left-handed, yet used a right-handed Stratocaster, meaning he played the guitar upside down. While Hendrix was capable of playing with the strings upside down per se, he restrung his guitars so that the heavier strings were at the top of the neck."

I don't understand the use of the word 'reputedly' in regards to Hendrix playing simultaneous rhythm and lead parts. The evidence is all there in the recordings - Hendrix adapted to the trio format by developing a style of playing where elements of what would normally be considered 'rhythm' and 'lead' guitar were blended together. Hendrix's 'rhythm' guitar part for any given song (as opposed to his solos, which were more in the straight 'lead' guitar vein) would usually include elements of 'riffs', 'chords' and single-note 'lead' licks. This was largely his own innovation and set him apart from other guitarists of the time.

Also, I don't understand why it is 'more amazing' that Hendrix was left-handed, then that he could fret all six strings with his thumb. As you note, by preference he strung his (admitedly upside-down) guitars in the same way as a right-handed player would, with the heavier stings at the top. This is hardly amazing, it's what you would expect.

The only thing that may be of interest to add to the left-handedness issue is why he didn't just play a left-handed guitar. For one thing, left-handed guitars are generally less available than right-handed models. Jimi is reported to have had to pawn his guitar fairly often during his early career as a sideman, buying another when gigs and money came along. He may well have got used to playing a right-handed model upside-down. It has also been suggested that, at that time, the left-handed models were often of inferior quality to their right-handed counterparts. Finally, Hendrix-obsessed guitarists today believe that the reverse angle of the bridge pickup (and headstock) on a Stratocaster, relative to the strings, when turned upside-down contributes a subtle difference in tone that Hendrix may have exploited. Or it may have been merely incidental. This has led to the creation of the left-handed 'Hendrix Strat' by Fender, designed to be played upside-down by right-handed guitarists.

No where does anyone make mention of the LEFT handed Gibson Flying V he used in 1970. Perfect example is the Isle Of Wight show Aug. 30, 1970. It was a gift from whom I don't know. Rosewood neck with Trini Lopez fingerboard and gold pick ups. Serial number 849476, now residing at the Hard Rock Cafe in Dallas, Texas. It was sold by former road manager Eric Barrett.(5/10/06)

- You're right, the wording is poor and confusing. If he strung a right-handed guitar the same way a right-handed player would, the heavier strings would be on the bottom, not the top, when he played it. Anyway, that's what I always thought about how he played guitar. Not amazing, but interesting because this would have an effect on the sound: When strumming downstrokes are naturally more powerful than upstrokes, and emphasize the strings on top. So if Hendrix had the high strings on top, he would have had to develop some strategies to get a "normal" bass-rooted sound. Obviously this wasn't a limitation for a guitarist of his caliber, but rather an invitation to explore fresh territory in guitar technique.


Another suggestion: In the quote:

"Mostly self-taught on the instrument, the left-handed Hendrix used a right-handed guitar that was restrung and played right side up" It should be written UPSIDE DOWN. The guitar is upside down. not right-side up. Even the picture shows this.


a lengthy comment from a casual wp user: This comment section seems contradictory. As a lifelong guitarist and Hendrix fanatic, I can say this for sure: Most guitarists play "right-handed", ie the neck of the guitar is in the left hand and the body falls beneath the right hand, which strums or picks. Most guitars are designed for right-hand playing. Tradition has led to the heaviest string (lowest tuned note) being on the "top", or nearest the guitarist's head, while the lightest string (highest tuned note) is on the "bottom", or nearest the guitarist's feet. the other four strings are graduated from heavy to light in between. Most right-handed guitars have the "controls", ie knobs, switches, input jacks, etc, on the "bottom" portion of the face of the guitar, nearer the guitarist's feet, in order to keep them out of the way of strumming, but not so far away that they can't be easily reached. Have a look at a picture of any "righty" guitarist like Clapton or George Harrison to see examples.

Left-handed guitars are usually mirror images of right-handed guitars. Heavy string on top, controls on bottom, but neck in right hand, body under left. Lefty guitarists typically play just like righty guitarists, but with hands switched - see Paul McCartney, Tony Iommi, Kurt Cobain, etc. The arrangement of the parts of the guitars means that most righty players can't easily play an unmodified lefty guitar, and vice versa. If you turn the guitar over to switch hands, all the parts get turned over, too, and then you've got the heavy string on bottom and the controls on top. Chord fingerings have to be inverted (flipped), which can be extremely difficult to do on the fly, and totally counterintuitive to boot. Knobs and cables tend to get in the way.

HOWEVER, some guitarists, famous or not, have learned to play righty guitars left-handed without modification. It's all in how you learn, you know? The arrangement of the guitar's parts is nearly as much tradition as utility. See, for instance, Elizabeth Cotten and Albert King.

I know you already know this, but bear with me:

Jimi Hendrix preferred Fender Stratocasters for various known and unknown reasons. He did not play them exclusively, but he played them usually, and is associated with that model above all others. He typically played righty Stratocasters WHICH HAD BEEN RESTRUNG LEFTY. Hendrix belongs to the group of "normal" lefty guitarist like McCartney and Cobain. He played right-handed guitars, but the string order was reversed, top to bottom, to be left-handed.

This means that his chording, strumming, and other fingerwork were not that unusual, despite being very, very good compared to rock guitarists of the day. He played standard chord and scale patterns most of the time.

What confuses people is that the actual structure of the Stratocaster was obviously "upside down". Though the strings, and therefore his technique, were standard as such, he APPEARED to be doing something very strange.

It has been reported anecdotally (there may be actual quotes from Hendrix to this effect, but I don't know) that Hendrix liked some or all of these aspects of right-handed Fender Stratocasters with reversed strings: 1) the quality of righty Strats (and other righty makes and models) was better because so few lefties were built at the time 2) he preferred being able to buy a righty Strat (easily restrung) in just about any city, when lefties were hard to find 3) he liked having the controls and vibrato bar (another story) "closer to him", ie on the upper side of the face of the guitar, so that he might more easily manipulate them in mid-song 4) he liked the reverse relative position of the "slanted" bridge pickup on the Strat (you'll have to look at a good picture of a Strat) when the strings had been reversed 5) he liked the harmonic difference in sound derived from the reverse relative length of the "runout" string between the nut and the tuners (see a picture, again) when the strings had been reversed.

Hendrix used restrung Gibson electrics and various restrung acoustics, too. Since he restrung most of his guitars, regardless of make and model, there must be some weight to some of the above reasons, particularly concerning quality and availability. It is also true that Hendrix, unlike most guitarists, was ambidextrous to some extent and could play right-handed if circumstances required. I have seen photos of him playing right-handed on right-handed guitars, left-handed on right-handed guitars, and everyone has seen pictures of him playing lefty on lefty guitars, which he clearly preferred. Accepted anecdotal evidence (from Eddie Kramer, Mitch Mitchell, and others) says that Hendrix re-recorded some of Noel Redding's bass parts on Axis: Bold as Love and Electric Ladyland with Noel's right-handed bass, without hesitation.

Hope all that helps clarify things a little bit.

"The Strat's easy action and relatively narrow neck were also ideally suited to Hendrix's evolving style"

  • This description is not accurate. Stratocasters did not necessarily have easier action or narrower necks than other guitars of Hendrix's time. Stratocasters were definitely considered good guitars, but not for those reasons per se.

Not about the featured article submission

The first paragraph says that Jimi "is widely considered to be the most important electric guitarist in the history of popular music". I call Weasel words on this. How about "James Marshall "Jimi" Hendrix (1942-11-27 – 1970-09-18) was a hugely influential American guitarist, singer, and songwriter"? Hughcharlesparker 20:51, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

I personally think that "He is widely considered the most important electric guitarist in the history of popular music." is somewhat redundant since the electric guitar was only invented in the 30s and really gained attention in the 40s, which was the same era as jump blues, the precursor rock and roll. I'm going to leave it for a bit and see if anyone else has any thoughts on it, but i think saying that "He is widely considered to be the most important electric guitar player of all time." Or to be more modest "of rock and roll" or "of the rock and roll era" --Cptbuck 01:08, 2 September 2005 (UTC)


Please stop tagging the article with unsourced

I and others have taken the time to find media where the article's material is covered and list them in the References section of the article. There is nothing in the article that cannot be found in those sources. Other celebrity or musician articles contain less references but remain free of the unsourced tag. (unsigned comment)

Uh, could you sign your comments so we know who we're talking to?
You're halfway correct: the article lists its references, but for the most part does not cite them. There's a difference, and just throwing out a bunch of "facts", and then sprinkling a few books in a "References" section does not a valid referenced article make.
Just for ha-has, here are a few "facts" in the article with no references:
... he often cited Rahsaan Roland Kirk as his favorite musician.
Hendrix, aware of this musical coincidence, bought Handel recordings including Messiah and the Water Music.
"Gypsy Eyes", one of the tracks on Electric Lady Land, was reportedly recorded 43 times
Now, I can see you rolling your eyes and saying, "[groan], that's ridiculous: there are hundreds of statements in the article that would need to be tagged with references. It would be a *#&@)ing mess!". Which is true; I'm not suggesting that the article should be densely forested with references. But right now there are practically none. I'm not sure how to approach this, so I wait for others to put their US$0.02 in. --ILike2BeAnonymous 21:04, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey, of the examples you give, the latter two I have read somewhere - I'll try to find out exactly where and cite them in the article. It does seem kinda unfair that the Hendrix article is branded with these tags while others have less references yet they go without such scrutiny. If you find any other questionable items, list them here and I'll look for those too. -- Zig 14:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
That's not a very good argument: just because other articles are extremely sloppy doesn't mean it's OK for this one to be sloppy too. --ILike2BeAnonymous 20:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
More sources n the kidnapping would be good. ATM we only have Hendrix secon hand account I thinh. Rich Farmbrough. 14:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't know what else can be done. If you read Sharon Lawrence's book, John McDermott's book, Charles Shaar Murray's book, Noel Redding's book, etc. - they all mention this story. It was in an issue of Univibes magazine. It's common knowledge among fans/collectors. Where is the line between 'needing references' and ruining the article body riddling it with references? I read dozens of biographical articles on Wikipedia that simply list in a References section various books etc. where the article's details can be found. Why is this not enough here? There's certainly enough Jimi hawks out there who would jump to delete or revert the posting of untrue data about their hero. -- Zig 16:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
[going up one level] The answer is that it's neither good enough here nor in those other articles you mention. Remember, this is 'spozed to be an encyclopedia, not a fan site, so it's supposed to adhere to higher standards of accountability than one might find, say, in a Hendrix newsgroup or on someone's lovingly-constructed but not-so-well verified web site.
As to the conflict between referencing nothing and filling the damn article with so many citations that it becomes impossible to wade through, well, that's one of those judgement calls you must make as an editor. As someone knowledgable about the subject, you ought to be in a better position to judge than some other editors. --ILike2BeAnonymous 18:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

All that being said

this article has come a long way in the last couple of months, no doubt. thanks (from a hendrix fan) for all those that put the work in. obviously, it still has a ways to go. the "legacy" section is a mess. i love guitar amps as much as the next guy, but who cares how much hendrix's first marshall is (speculated to be) worth? maybe that section is a catch-all for everybody's two cents, but i hope someone with editing abilities (i don't got 'em) can clean that up too. even if you're not a gearhead, don't be afraid to challenge the gearhead crap in the article. make the gearheads justify the filler!


Fact check, please, on a supposed Hendrix utterance

Someone added this to the "Band of Gypsies" section:

The second and final Band of Gypsys appearance occured one month later (January 28, 1970) at a twelve-act show in Madison Square Garden dubbed the Winter Festival for Peace. Similarly to Woodstock, set delays forced Hendrix to take the stage at an inopportune 3am, only this time he was obviously high on drugs and in no shape to play. He belted out a dismal rendition of "Who Knows" before snapping a vulgar response at a woman who shouted a request for "Foxy Lady". He lasted halfway through a second song, then simply stopped playing, telling the audience: "That's what happens when earth fucks with space—never forget that". He then sat quietly on the stage until staffers escorted him away. Various angles exist around this bizarre scene—Buddy Miles claimed that manager Michael Jeffrey dosed Hendrix with LSD in an effort to sabotage the current band and bring about the return of the Experience lineup. Blues legend Johnny Winter said it was Hendrix's girlfriend Devon Wilson who spiked his drink with drugs for unknown reasons.

Did this happen? Did he say that? Is there any way to know for sure? ILike2BeAnonymous 23:59, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I wrote that. The story can be found wherever the Band of Gypsys breakup is covered. The quote can be found in at least four of the Hendrix biographies listed. I used the John McDermott's book and the Charles Cross book when composing this section. They both list interviews with people who were there and/or involved as their sources.
Oh, also, about the linked dates: Doh! I didn't know that they were linked for date formatting purposes.
--Zig 03:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

stay in vancouver and tommy chong

according to [1], jimi lived briefly in vancouver (i have read this elsewhere and this seems pretty verifiable), where he played in a band with Tommy Chong. I figure that under the chitlin' circuit section, the seattle bit is worth mentioning, and maybe work in the tommy chong anecdote.

Peanut Butter Filled Syringe

I couldn't help but recall when somebody had put something into the article a while back that it was rumored that Hendrix had injected a syringe filled with heroin and peanut butter into his temple before his death. Has anybody looked into this? I would recommend putting it in there that it was rumored to have happened, yet however there is no evidence to support this rumor. Although it may seem to be superfluous information, rumors of this nature are of interest to readers. --EMC 22:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Why on earth would we want to put something in just because it is rumored to be so? I hear it's rumored that there are people with three anuses walking around: should I put that in Wikipedia somewhere? Think, man. ==ILike2BeAnonymous 03:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Problem w/discography

Editing the headings in the discography, I noticed this section is screwed up. We have "Discography" and a "Posthumous discography" sections, but the former has albums that were clearly released after his death. Someone care to fix this? I would, but I'm not an expert on Hendrix's recording history. ==ILike2BeAnonymous 17:42, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that was fast. Thanks. ==ILike2BeAnonymous 17:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Biggest Respect to him

Jimi Hendrix is one of my all time favorite musician and he was indpendent in music so talented that gave a music lesson to music history.my biggest respect.he was guitar hero.one of the really best guitar mans. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pentagonshark666 (talk • contribs) .

I have no frigging idea what you were trying to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. ==ILike2BeAnonymous 06:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Notice to fans

I (Editor19841) created a new template, {{User Jimi}}, to reflect that a user is a Jimi Hendrix fan. I'm still working on perfecting it's look, but here it is:

Experience
 This user listens to Hendrix.

The template will also list and link users to Category:Wikipedians who like Jimi Hendrix. Enjoy. Editor19841 18:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Please note that the image used in your template is free-use, and as such should not be used in templates per Wikipedia:Fair use criteria #9. --Syrthiss 18:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Django Reinhardt an influence on Jimi?

I have seen in various articles that Jimi Was influenced by Django Reinhardt the great Gypsy jazz guitarist. This is why he named his band the "Band of Gypsies" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.245.163.1 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 10 February 2006 UTC.

Cite, please? --ILike2BeAnonymous 18:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC) click on Django Reinhardt —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.244.96.92 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 11 February 2006 UTC. Wikipedia articles aren't sources for other Wikipedia articles. Besides, it's not soucred at Django Reinhardt, either. Find an external source. Microtonal 06:33, 11 February 2006 (UTC) Django 4 Django now should be in Jimi's influences,what do you think?

I think you're an idiot who believes everything that's written on someone's blog. No, let me rephrase that, since this is Wikepedia and we're all supposed to be nicey-nice here: you don't get to put stuff in an encyclopedia article just because someone, somewhere in the "blogosphere" (whatever the fuck that is) says it, OK? --ILike2BeAnonymous 07:53, 11 February 2006 (UTC) Settle down chief. The feeling is mutual. It is merely information.Its on the wiki Django Reinhardt too. What makes you so sure he did'nt listen to Django-that is why he named his band the "Band of Gypsys".And I did not put anything in the article. That is someone elses job. There are more cites to this and I will find them for your geek ass OK? Since you are obviously the king of the wikipedia Jimi Hendrix site.

Besides I think Django is better than Hendrix anyday,even if he could only use two fingers!!!!!Beat that sucka

To answer your question (whoever you are; you don't sign anything so there's no way to tell), Hendrix probably did listen to Django—I'd be surprised if he didn't. However, whether Reinhardt was an influence on him is something we'll probably never really know. As to the "Band of Gypsies" thing, go ahead and find some citations if you can (real ones this time). --ILike2BeAnonymous 08:51, 11 February 2006 (UTC) 195.195.166.41some of hendrix's music (eg on "Sunshine of your Love" in the first 69 Albert Hall concert shows the clear influence of Django - fast chromatic runs, chromatically-rising chords with voicings identical to Reinhardt's - its definitely there.

Still waiting for a citation (other than your say-so) of any kind for any of this stuff. --ILike2BeAnonymous 23:26, 20 March 2006 (UTC) here is a reference, finally:

http://www.fgmrecords.com/gypsy jazz/django_reinhardt.html

There is a space between the words "gypsy" & "jazz" which is causing this website not to post properly after I save it.