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I'm a bit uncomfortable with the article as is. Like any neologism, "Jubu" will not be accepted by some of the people it's applied to, and that should be noted.
Further, though the article claims there is "no coherent philosophy" behind "Jubuism", I do get the impression that it's saying most "Jubus" are somewhere between Judaism and Buddhism. I see no particular reason to believe that Jewish converts to Buddism retain any more of their ancestral religion than converts from any other religion. --Saforrest 19:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
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- It's more of a social phenomenon that grew out of the anecdotal observation that a disproportionate number of Western Buddhists are of Jewish extraction. I know that I do need a cite for that but, as I said, it started off as an anecdotal observation among Western Buddhists. I don't know if anyone's actually done the sort of statistical work that would bear this out with greater scholarly rigor. For anecdotal accounts, there's Sylvia Boorstein's Funny You Don't Look Buddhist and Roger Kamenetz's The Jew in the Lotus.
- JFD 17:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- I think that when it's used, it typically refers more to Jews who have chosen to retain some sort of ethnic or religious identity as Jews (up to and possibly including observing Jewish holidays and ritual laws) while embracing the practice or philosophy of Buddhism, rather than just any Jewish convert. A Jew who converts to Buddhism and choses not to retain any portion of their Jewish identity (doesn't self-identify as a Jew) probably would not refer to themselves as a Jubu. The term sort of floats around the Tricycle crowd in discussing the phenomenon of Jewish conversion and interest in Buddhism; it's certainly not a term that your average Buddhist off the street would be familiar with, assuming that that street wasn't in San Francisco or the American Northeast. --Clay Collier 12:26, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
The article is rather incoherent. What the term Jubu generally refers to are people who practice muddhist rituals and customs, but beleive in Jewish Divinity and the Jewish god. Most Jubu'sthat I have talked to describe themselves as being both Jewish and Buddhist, seeing as (they argue) there is no divne being in Buddhism, the two are not contradictory and complement eachother. I have neverbefore heard of Jubu referrign to a buddhiost of jewish heritage.71.32.52.92 23:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I would actually take issue with the redirection of BuJew here. While I'm always forgetting which is which, one is usually reserved for individuals born and perhaps raised Jewish but self-identify primarily as Buddhist (although possibly while admitting or retaining certain Jewish cultural practices), the other is usually reserved for people who identify primarily or exclusively as Jewish but who adopt certain Buddhist practices (perhaps even in the spirit of Gautama's admonition that he was not introducing a new religion and one shouldn't leave one's native religion). While it is true that some see Jubu and Bujew as interchangeable, my sense is that those in the midst of these cultural practices and differences maintain a distinction. Hence a more useful encyclopedia would reflect the distinction as perceived by those closest to the identity rather than running them together for the sake of reflecting a view that is less familiar with the situation. 128.205.173.76 20:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC) - Ken
[edit] Pema Chödrön is a Jew?
Pema Chödrön is a Jew? Do you have reference to it? Like a book or some online biography? - Nearfar 06:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article move - Jubu
I'd like to suggest moving the page from Jubus to Jubu. One detail has been bugging me since I first stumbled across the page: the plural in the title. Most articles dealing with ethnic or religious groups do not list themselves in the plural form, but in the singular (Latter Day Saint, etc.). "Jubus" is even slightly difficult to read in the plural - "Jubu" looks like a neologism, whereas "Jubus" looks like a Latin term, requiring a different set of pronunciation rules. Every time I see the plural out of context, I want to pronounce it with two short "u"s (as in but), and a final [s] rather than a final [z]. Imagine Jeebus, but beginning with the word "just". sigh. Is these too insignificant to warrant a page move to Jubu? If there's no counterargument, it's a week until I'm WP:BOLD. samwaltz 15:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
