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Does anybody have silver yet? Should be shipping now through Hydrahead. --NaOH 06:09, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- I have had it preordered since it became available to preorder, expecting it on Monday (official UK release date)... Did you check the samples on http://www.avalancheinc.co.uk/jesusilver.html ? Sounds suitably evolved from the past 2 releases. Skewer 07:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- I have it and it's amazing. Already one of my favorites of 2006! JohnBWatt
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[edit] Disagree with capitalization points
If the J is NEVER supposed to be capitalized, why does Justin's own blog list the band as Jesu, with a capital J? JohnBWatt 12:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, curses. didn't notice that :)
- Feel free to edit me to death... Skewer 06:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Even if Broadrick always writes it with a lowercase J, it should still be an uppercase J here. This is an encyclopedia and names of bands are proper nouns, hence they take an initial capital. Wikipedia is under no obligation to duplicate what is essentially a design/typesetting decision by the artist. --Richardrj 09:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Like I said, feel free to edit me to death.
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- Yes, this is an encyclopaedia, and names are proper nouns, but a "product identity" should be preserved as it appears on the product (here the band is the product).
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- Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Article_titles_with_lowercase_initial_letters . You will find a-ha, a1 (band), angela (band), blink-182... just on the first page. If I invented a device called the "skewer", under the company "skewer industries", the name & logo I choose would be legally immovable without some trouble - an art department is not permitted to restyle a specified logo, which seems (to me) to be what the recurrent "jesu" text is.
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- This whole debate seems quite trivial, especially given the other lower-case bands out there. Can we leave things as they are or have some editing from those who think it is not worth conforming to the band's actual name? Thanks :) Skewer 11:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
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- If we were to use that logic on Broadrick's previous band, the entry would be listed as GODFLESH since every album had the entire logo capitalized. JohnBWatt 12:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree it's a trivial debate - but hey, I like trivia :)
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- I'm not gonna edit it, because I respect your views. But my personal view is that Wikipedia articles should refer to names, not product identities. And yes, that would apply to A-ha, Blink 182, Bell Hooks and all the rest. Following its recent redesign, the logo of the Guardian is now "theguardian". Are you saying that that is how the paper should be referred to here? --Richardrj 12:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Well I don't know what to do about this. I figure a precedent has been set by other lowercase bands, and I only stuck to the "j" because I have seen many talk pages fill up with fans debating, for example, whether "The Smashing Pumpkins" should actually have the "The" (on some releases it does, on others it doesn't, much like The Cure's "Wish" album, on which the band is just called "Cure").
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- Since jesu is always the same on the CDs I'm not going to capitalise it, but I don't own this page, and probably won't revert any J edits that people make. If I was mentioning the band in an email I'd probably call them Jesu, out of habit (back to the names thing), so I'm clearly an indecisive mess :) Skewer 11:34, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I remember that Robert Smith officially changed the band's name from The Cure to Cure, when "Wish" came out. By the next album it had changed back. All in all, for the purpose of their Wikipedia entry, it doesn't pay to get so technical. It's the same band. The same goes for Jesu, I believe. Even if it was Broadrick's intention to keep it in lowercase, it's still a style choice which shouldn't apply here. I just didn't want to change it on you without some kind of consensus on it. JohnBWatt 19:24, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Admittedly, there does seem to be a consensus here that lower case names should be allowed to stand. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it, although personally I think it is wrong, wrong, wrong :) --Richardrj 20:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Actually, I think a better idea would be to fix the capitalization issues but, if the points given can be proven, make a reference to the style choice of not using capitalization. Personally, I can't recall any such interviews or quotes from Broadrick where he specifically states reasons for why the name is spelled that way. JohnBWatt 20:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Hmmm, at the Hydra Head News Blog almost nothing is capitalised. This doesn't help at all... :) Skewer 14:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
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Just a note to let you know that I am in favour of switching to capitalised "Jesu", given that it's how it appears in Broadrick's own blog. Also I could see no reference that the name "should" always be all-lowercase, nor that it's done to "remove the inherent religion". As somebody already noted, it looks more like a design choice, like all-uppercase GODFLESH. I would edit myself, but I don't know enough about the band. PizzaMargherita 14:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:JesuHeartache.jpg
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:JesuAlbum.jpg
Image:JesuAlbum.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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- I have added the required infobox to these two images but have not added the "source" section. I encourage people to edit/improve them. Will.law June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use criteria
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[edit] TRL
That's a record label, not a band, and shouldn't go in the associated acts section of the infobox. = ∫tc 5th Eye 15:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Er, but it isn't in the associated acts section; it's in the Label(s) section! Inflammator 12:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- It's all good. :) Inflammator 12:30, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 7 string guitars
Article states Justin is using 7 string guitars on tour and on the Silver EP. Any references??? That would be quite a departure for him, as most interviews I've read states he's been using his same black 6 string, strat knock off since Godflesh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nihilistic Misanthrope (talk • contribs) 08:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like a 7 string to me.. http://www.amoeba.com/video-player/jesu.html (about 28 seconds in is a pretty clear shot) User:DaveJones —Preceding comment was added at 23:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
