Talk:Jerzy Franciszek Kulczycki
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We all marvel at the Polish-Austrian ties....
- Outside of Kulczycki, Sobieski and Galicia there weren't so many of them.. Halibutt 02:54, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- Why the "Ukrainian origin"? Pretty soon everyone will be claiming some "foreign origin" for every Pole. It's ridiculous. This is one of the many reasons why history articles on Wikipedia are of shoddy quality, something that has become very obvious to me in many of those relevant to Poland. I appreciate the difficulties that many of the Polish contributors encounter from historically-challenged and agenda-pushing neighbors. I can't stand this idea of "comprimising on the truth." --24.91.40.69 17:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Why Polish?
I insist that Kulczycki must be recognized as Ukrainian. Besides his Ukrainian origin (by the way, Sobieski also was born in Ukraine) he was an Orthodox while all Polish or "polonized" noblemen were Catholics or Greek Catholics. The fact Ukraine was a part of Commonwealth at the time doesn't change anything: I guess it would be insulting for a Pole to hear Mickiewicz was Russian and not a Pole just because that Polish region was a part of Russian Empire at the moment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.223.130.110 (talk) 11:06, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
Nationality at that time was something different. Mickiewicz for real was Lithuanian (now he would be called Belarussian), as well as Kosciuszko, Matejko and so on. Country was one, Commonwealth of Both Nations, nations were diffrent in present sense. But Mickiewicz spended many years of his life abroad and always was patriotic (sometimes "freaky";), it`s different story how Ukrainians were treated in Polish-"Lithuanian" Commonwealth and how everyone was treated in Russian Empire. As for me (as a Pole) Kulczycki can be called Ukrainian, but what about Wiśniowiecki (Vysnevecky)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.77.107.138 (talk) 00:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Does this help?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-su0ICIWbo0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.109.218 (talk) 21:09, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Stanisław Lem is a Ukrainian too
.. because he born in Lwow - (now Ukraine). Kulczycki was a citizen of Commonwealth of Both Nations. In this country lived many nations even Lipka Tatars. He was a Pole of Ukrainian descend - a member of Polish szlachta of Ukrainian origin. Religion doesn`t mean anything. Lipka Tatars followed Sunni branch of Islam for example. Now Poland is catholic country but before war Poland was also a nation of many religions. In 1921 16,057,229 Poles (approx. 62.5%) were Roman (Latin) Catholics, 3,031,057 citizens of Poland (approx. 11.8%) were Eastern Rite Catholics (mostly Ukrainian Greek Catholics and Armenian Rite Catholics), 2,815,817 (approx. 10.95%) were Greek Orthodox, 2,771,949 (approx. 10.8%) were Jewish, and 940,232 (approx. 3.7%) were Protestants (mostly Lutheran Evangelical).(Pernambuko (talk) 04:46, 18 March 2008 (UTC))
