Talk:JEDEC memory standards

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"Their rationale for including these definitions is explained and contrasted to the IEC standard prefixes: - footnote text"

You have elevated a footnote to a main feature. The footnote appears to quote an IEC document. JEDEC was stating that they heard of the IEC binary standard but were ignoring it. None of the JEDEC standards use the KiB or MiB notation. All of the semiconductor memory producers use the JEDEC terms for memory size. Also the JEDEC standards do not use terms like megabyte and gigabyte so there is not point of confusion

I am removing this WP:POV modification. - SWTPC6800 21:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Where does the JEDEC state that they are ignoring the IEC prefixes? They note them as "an alternative", note that their definitions document common usage, and proceed from there. How you can interpret their not using IEC prefixes as outright rejection of them is beyond my comprehension. I find it ironic that you would counsel others about POV when you've created this article for, as far as I can tell, the sole purpose of making a big fuss about the fact that JEDEC uses the common interpretation of "megabyte" in their standards. No, I think NPOV mandates that we show both sides of the coin if this article is going to continue to exist solely to talk about which two letters the standard uses for capacity notation rather than the contents of the actual standards. -- mattb @ 2007-04-11T04:00Z

You can look at JEDEC documents here and while you will find the IEC binary footnote in Terms and Definitions documents you will not find the in any other standards. [[1]]

You can also search all of the JEDEC documents here. [[2]]

You will not find megabyte (etc) used in any working standard. This does not mean the someday in the future JEDEC may change but the latest standards do not use them. JEDEC has an agreement to work with IEC. -- SWTPC6800 22:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Omission != commission. -- mattb @ 2007-04-11T22:33Z

In the case of documents that comply with a standard then it can be said that using a specifc term means that term complies with the standard. Fnagaton 15:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why semiconductor companies use JEDEC

JEDEC is the standards organization of choice for semiconductor companies because for the flexibility and speed of the process. JEDEC Standard 21 for Configurations for Solid State Memories is published in a 3-ring binder that can be updated monthly. Each semiconductor company (and other members) gets a vote. In IEC each country gets a vote and the process takes years.

Solid State Times OCTOBER, 1999 Volume 1, Issue 4, Page 2 [3]

JEDEC has entered into an important new Memorandum of Understanding with the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) to expedite the process of moving semiconductor standards into the international marketplace. The agreement, which became effective September 1, 1999 is part of the IEC-PAS (Publicly Available Specifications) program. The program’s objective is to speed up the international standards process in areas of rapidly developing technology. It is intended to deliver information to the marketplace quickly since PAS are de facto standards. If PAS standards are approved and accepted by the international community, they ultimately will become IEC international standards.

Under the recently signed agreement, JEDEC will identify the specific standards it wishes to submit for PAS consideration. If the IEC accepts the JEDEC standard as a PAS to be entered into their Program of Work (PW), the standard will be published under the joint logos of JEDEC and the IEC, and royalties on the sale of the PAS will be divided equally between the two organizations. If the IEC later adopts the PAS as an IEC international standard, the standard will be published under the IEC’s sole logo and the division of royalties will end.

A significant feature of the new agreement is the fact that JEDEC will continue to have the right to continue developing the relevant technology, to revise and modify the underlying JEDEC standard, and to continue publishing the underlying JEDEC standard on the World Wide Web.

Solid State Times JANUARY, 2000 Volume 2, Issue 1, Page 10 [4]

The IEC works differently than the JEDEC committees where it is one country one vote instead of the JEDEC one company one vote. This voting practice does not favor the larger Semiconductor Countries over the smaller ones. Many smaller countries like the IEC because they can voice their opinion without being overpowered by the larger countries. The IEC normally meets twice per year to discuss new proposals and to review the present balloting results.

The IEC has 4 basic stages of balloting which include New Work Item Proposal (NP), Committee Draft (CD), Committee Draft for Vote (CDV), and Final Draft International Standard (FDIS). Since the IEC meetings are International and their meeting schedule is every 6-months, the balloting cycle can easily be 2-3 years in length. The IEC management group is working on ways to reduce this cycle time in 1/2 in order to meet the needs for the Semiconductor Market.

SWTPC6800 19:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)