Talk:Jason Bourne (character)

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Contents 1 Wrong birth info 2 Double-entendre? 3 The real name? 4 Publication dates 5 Merging Cain (fictional character) 6 Fix Ultimatum Book Page 7 Medusa and Treadstone 71 are not novels 8 Move to Jason Bourne (character) 9 Notability problems, too much plot summary 10 Image copyright problem with Image:BournePoster.jpg

[edit] Wrong birth info

Vietnam war ended in 1975. If he was born in 1970 (or 1971), we'd be only 5 years old by that time. How could he possibly work as a FSO and had a wife and two children!!!

I deleted the Date of Birth for David Webb and his place of birth. The DoB was absolutely wrong, unless that was written for the movie version of Jason Bourne (Matt Damon born in 1970). Since Bourne had a part in the Vietnam war in Medusa there was no way he could have been born in 1971. K1Bond007 20:45, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

    Webb was born 9/13/70.  The birthday 4/15/71 was the "code" birthday to identify the address of the training facility in
    the movie.

The character from the books seems to be distinct from the character in the movies. Obviously, according to the book, he was born much before the 1970s. However, I just watched the Bourne Supremacy, and they list his DoB as 4/15/1971. Brent (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Double-entendre?

Is the character named 'Bourne' to form a play on "borne identity" for the first novel title? This seems noteworthy if true. 149.159.92.56 04:00, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I've only read the first two, but so far it's worked for them. In the first he has a "born identity" (this one is obvious) as Jason Bourne. In the second he transforms from David Webb - pratically average joe to Jason Bourne, former-spy/assassin and thus uses the "Bourne supremacy" etc to accomplish his goal. I'm sure it's debatable how else it can be percieved for the second one. By the way, I kinda replied thinking you meant it had a "double meaning" --> A double-entendre usually means that the second meaning is more risque, in this case the answer is uhh no. K1Bond007 05:29, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

I think it is like K1Bond007 says, The first is based around him discovering his identity, the second about a battle of sorts in his head for supremacy (think of the mental battles he is going through, and what he is like at the start of the third book), the thrid book ultimatum is just that, the "final fight" if you will, with Carlos... As for Legacy again that title is to do with his "legacy" or, more commonly how his Children are his legacy... Help plz 12:15, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The real name?

Im pretty sure his real name is SCOTT Webb and not david Webb. I dont remember but i think the name David Webb was the name he took later in the books or in the movies.

No, it is definitely David. The Bourne Identity ends with the line "Hello David". Google it. K1Bond007 16:18, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Now i understand. Apparantly,In the Hebrew dubbed version which I read it was changed.I now realize that because the book ended with the same line only with a different name. In my version,his brother's name was Gordon,was that an altered name too?.

I haven't read it in so long, I just remembered that last line. I don't recall Webb having a brother. Maybe he did... I don't know.. K1Bond007 18:40, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

His brother was the Major who was one of those killed at the Treadstone building in the first book. 70.49.242.3

Re-reading the book at the moment. The brother is Major Gordon Webb, killed as described above. Ma1cius 15:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

It surely is David Webb, Read the books and you'll find it there...

[edit] Publication dates

My copy of The Bourne Identity says copyright 1975, not 1980. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.49.242.3 (talk • contribs) .

It was 1980. I don't know what to tell you. See Ludlum's official website: [1]. K1Bond007 21:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I had just glanced at the inside front page and saw 1975, but that's just the two newspaper articles quoted from in the book, which does say 1980. 70.49.242.3 21:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging Cain (fictional character)

I believe that having a separate article for the Cain identity would be more useful than burying information about it exclusively in this article. If one were searching for information on Cain, it would be difficult to find in the middle of the entire Jason Bourne article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Whamilton (talk • contribs) .

I think it should be merged. Who is likely to be looking for information on a false identity of Jason Bourne, who wouldn't come to the parts on Bourne and the novels first ? -- Beardo 13:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Definitely should be merged. K1Bond007 19:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• Merge - Timrem 22:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

• Merge. Jlittlet 23:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

• Merge - but with redirect. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:23, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

• Merge - I think this should certainly be merged as there are certainly more important literary and filmic Cains.

• Merge - Cain is for charley and Delta for cain... merge the sucker...

[edit] Fix Ultimatum Book Page

Some idiot decided to make The Bourne Ultimatum redirect to The Bourne Ultimatum (film) and I can't find a record of the original anywhere. If someone's got a copy please add it back. Scaper8 20:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, adhering to assuming good faith, it was probably just an accident that didn't get fixed, but the problem still stands. Scaper8 21:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Medusa and Treadstone 71 are not novels

Medusa and Treadstone 71 are not novels (afaik), but the Novels section makes it seem that way. Also, The Bourne Betrayal is coming out in June 2007 and needs to be added. BartonM 14:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

The Medusa and Treadstone 71 sections, currently described as back story for the whole Bourne franchise, should only really be considered as back story for the novels as Treadstone 71 in the novels is somewhat different from Treadstone in the film series. However, as currently detailed, the back story mixes details from the films with detail from the books. The attempted assassination of Nykwana Wombosi is purely an event from the film and has nothing to do with the attempt to stop Carlos, which is not part of the film back story. Ma1cius 14:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Jason Bourne (character)

I'd like to move this page to Jason Bourne (character) and make Jason Bourne a disambiguation page linking to all parts of the Jason Bourne franchise and the character page, as in the Bourne disambiguation page. The rationale is to have a central "Jason Bourne" index page to link to, and to avoid duplication of the list of movies and novels as it is currently the case in Bourne (surname) and Bourne. Any objections? -- Ddxc (talk) 09:42, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Y Done. -- Ddxc (talk) 15:58, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability problems, too much plot summary

This article currently does not demonstrate the required notability of the subject (see WP:FICT). It could do so by citing coverage of the Jason Bourne character (not the movies) in reliable sources; for instance, a quick Google search turns up [2]. The article should really talk about these kinds of things (impact and reception in media), not so much the plot. Right now, the article is almost completely plot summary with no assertion of notability, which would basically qualify it for deletion. If someone could try to turn this into an encyclopedic article, that would be awesome! -- Lea (talk) 06:11, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, since the books and the movies are really different universes, it might make sense to make this article only about the movie character (which has probably gotten much more coverage than the book character). Or if there's enough material about the book character (which I kindof doubt), split it up into two articles. -- Lea (talk) 07:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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