Talk:Japanese clans

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Ashina, Ishida, Tsugaru clans all link to non-clan pages.

I've removed link to Ashina. But i don't know if there is a clan in Japan with the same name. So i changed it to Ashina clan--Ugur Basak 11:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

For the time being, the list in this article seems redundant with the Japanese Clan Category list. It could be deleted... But then the article itself becomes void. It seems difficult to fill up by interesting stuff, however. If anyone has any idea... Tensaibuta 14:41, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

should all these dead links be removed? --Kuuzo 17:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is this page actually about?

Since "[clan]" is in itself quite a multi-faceted term, taking different meanings within the boundaries of different societies (and languages), I can't help but wonder what constitutes a "clan" in Japan in the first place. Also, it feels odd to me that no link to Japanese Wikipedia is given. So, is "Japanese clan" a translation from a Japanese concept, or is it a category created by non-Japanese observers? And what do the Japanese think of the category itself? Rafu 13:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I've added the link from Japanese wikipedia. "Clan" is the most common translation of the Japanese character 氏 (shi or uji) and refers primarily to samurai extended families. Though there are connotations to the choice of the English word, and nuances of meaning between it and "family" or other alternative terms, it is perfectly normal within Japanese to speak of samurai clans (氏族shizoku, "clan families"). Clan identity was of great importance, relating to one's connections to the past (and to great warriors or rulers of the past), relationships to other families of power or prestige (just like European noble families intermarrying), and the like. LordAmeth 19:05, 11 July 2007 (UTC)