Talk:Jane Curtin
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Shouldn't this be reverted? I don't know how to.
Yes, I removed the long quote from a SNL sketch that did nothing to reflect the subject's career, personality, or achievements. Verne Equinox 15:07, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Spinoza1111 05:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)It is oversimplification to say that Jane represented a "liberal" viewpoint. She in fact was an image of self-control that was outlier in the let-it-all-hang-out decade of the 1970s, but dialectically the letting-it-all-hang-out created, in fact, dialogues in front of the TeeVee in which Jane Curtin became for young women, intimidated by the disco ball sexuality of the times, a sort of role model who affirmed their non-ethnic style.
Spinoza1111 05:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)Many of these young women probably resented being called "ignorant sluts" for speaking up at social gatherings by men empowered to do so because,courtesy of SNL, it had become *au fait* to do so: Dan Ackroyd's bon mot illustrated the failure of American political theater to stay away from cartoonish cruelty as *ersatz* for an empowering and affirmative comedy, the very name of which as I use may be without a referent for many Amerikkkans.
Spinoza1111 05:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)In fact, Jane Curtin prefigured Glenn Close, and the 1980s return, not so much of the Repressed, which had after all had full airplay in the Purple Decades, but of repressed Repression itself, in which Puritanism returned as a fashion statement; yet such is the power of fashion statement that this return was quite real.
Spinoza1111 05:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)Roseanne Roseannadanna tries to needle Curtin out of what is clearly sexual "repression" but many actual viewers had for material reasons to value sexual "repression" as a survival skill in a way that ultimately rich and successful actors cannot readily access, since for them, getting rid of "repression" is a necessary tool of the trade. In the scene where Curtin rips her bodice, she affirms, as does the enraged Puritan at the *auto da fe* that the drives merely played-with by the ethnically charged figure, Tabitha the slave or Quueq Queeq, exist, and have a dark side.
Spinoza1111 05:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)As a result of the SNL dialectic between the Puritan ruling class and the rest of the country, the fairness doctrine disappeared without a trace and as a result, the media was fully complicit with the lies that led the USA into Iraq.
Spinoza1111 05:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)A true political theater would admit this dialectic but Americans, of course, don't think dialectically, instead in simple-minded categories of "liberal" and conservative as lifestyle choices. Curtin's triumph over Roseanne Roseanna Danna and John Belushi (both of whom died: the struggle in Saturday Night Live's green room appears to have been a Fight to the Death for Pure Recognition worthy of the purple passages in Hegel, with fat funny men and African American women among the victims not by chance) in fact presaged the Reagan *reconquista*.
Spinoza1111 05:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)All this is POV. I have limited my corrections to an NPOV replacement of "Chevy Chase" as a foil to Curtin by Gilda because "Chevy Chase" was never anything more than a legend in his own mind, and a hopefully NPOV recount of the context in which Jane Curtin worked, in which in fact the commentators portrayed by Belushi and by Radner were based on real people given a very temporary "privilege" of substantive freedom of speech by the networks (who abuse a public good, the radio spectrum, on a daily basis). I was there, people.
Spinoza1111 05:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)John Candy died for your sins.
Spinoza1111 05:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)Edward G. Nilges
I think the phrase "who (referencing James J. Kilpatrick) prototyped today's right-wing media "attack" journalist." is a pointless shot at right wing commentators I think it should be altered. And and the proper spelling is America not amerikkka.Gpshaw 03:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
